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RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - bleep42 - 2018-04-02

From Milhouse.
Quote:Our service provider, Digital Ocean, is having a problem in their data center with block storage: http://status.digitalocean.com/incidents/8sk3mbgp6jgl
 Unfortunately this is affecting our services, and http://releases.libreelec.tv/releases.json is not currently available which is why the update channel and available versions lists are empty. You may also notice a longer than usual delay before the LibreELEC Settings addon is available as the addon service is blocking on the releases.json download which eventually times out. The Digital Ocean outage is also preventing the installation of addons from the LibreELEC repository at this time.
So try again tomorrow........
Regards, Kevin.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

Still having problems.

iPlayerWWW is back in the repository and I can install it now without getting an error message. However, when I run it I get the error message:
"No module namedrequests. Please check you installed this plugin correctly"

Log:
https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZBmyQktV3n/


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - primaeval - 2018-04-03

It looks like it is an https problem because you are still on Kodi 16.1.
Try upgrading to Krypton 17.6 or SPMC or another Jarvis fork that have updated to https.

However you seem to have even more problems because you can't even import the requests package.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

(2018-04-03, 10:43)primaeval Wrote: It looks like it is an https problem because you are still on Kodi 16.1.
Try upgrading to Krypton 17.6 or SPMC or another Jarvis fork that have updated to https.

However you seem to have even more problems because you can't even import the requests package.
 My hardware doesn't allow anything above Kodi 16.1 so I'm stuck with that. 
Up to 31 March everything was running smoothly.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

Could my problem with the request package (whatever that is) be somehow related to that DigitalOcean crash? Because that is about the time my problem started. Problem should be resolved now but my iplayerwww is still broken. Anybody else having problems now with iplayerwww?


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - primaeval - 2018-04-03

I'm pretty sure you are going to have to find a different fork of Kodi if your Android is 4.something.
CaptainT has made every BBC url use the https version.
https://github.com/vonH/plugin.video.iplayerwww/commit/56df77dce1da9c3b056f39a156c2b3776c4cd587
The BBC have been moving their whole iplayer website to https over the last couple of years.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

(2018-04-03, 12:04)primaeval Wrote: I'm pretty sure you are going to have to find a different fork of Kodi if your Android is 4.something.
CaptainT has made every BBC url use the https version.
https://github.com/vonH/plugin.video.iplayerwww/commit/56df77dce1da9c3b056f39a156c2b3776c4cd587
The BBC have been moving their whole iplayer website to https over the last couple of years.
 Thanks for you input! I'm not sure if anything newer exists that runs on Android 4 but I will have a look at that in the future. I just fear it is not going to make a difference for the problem I'm currently having with iplayerwww because as you stated yourself:
Quote:However you seem to have even more problems because you can't even import the requests package.
I would like to solve that problem first.

The iplayerwww version that fails is the same one that worked before 1 April so no change there. If the BBC has made a change since then I would expect other users to have similar problems. BBC's own iPlayer app works fine btw.

Your advice is highly appreciated. I'm really not knowledgeable about this stuff so I will probably just have to ditch iplayerwww.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - primaeval - 2018-04-03

If you look in that Github link I posted you will see that iplayerwww is using https:// everywhere to access the BBC. eg
Code:
NEW_URL = "https://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/iptv-all/vpid/%s" % stream_id
Kodi 16.1 does not support https, so it will not work even if you find out why requests is missing.

You probably had the last version of iplayerwww installed that worked with Jarvis.
Some of the links still worked and used http streams.

If is also possible some of your dodgy repos installed a workaround for the requests package that might have supported https but that is just a guess.

Your options are:
  • buy some new hardware
  • try to install LibreELEC or a similar Linux operating system for Kodi on your Android box
  • install a Kodi fork that does support https
  • Google "Kodi fork Android 4" and you will come up with things like SPMC, FTMC, EBMC, MyGica. Try them. Beware of malicious websites though. Use a good ad blocker. None are supported by Kodi.



RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

@primaeval

Thanks for your suggestions. I have just installed EBMC on my box and then iplayerwww "works". However, it doesn't play smooth and stops playing altogether after a few seconds. Perhaps it is less efficient than Kodi 16.1 + iplayerwww v2.5.32 was and my box struggles with it.

So I guess that for me this is the end of an era with iplayerwww and will probably going back to the old clumsy way of downloading the content beforehand using get_iplayer and then playing it on Kodi because that runs very smooth.

Another thing I noticed is that with EBMC and also with the official BBC iPlayer app, black isn't really black but gray, as if you are looking at a slightly overexposed picture. This was another reason why I always preferred Jarvis + iplayerwww above the official iplayer. I always thought this had to do with the BBC iplayer app but now I think it may have to do with some compatibility thing because apparently using old software on my 3 year old hardware gives a better picture quality than running the newer software.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - primaeval - 2018-04-03

The official BBC iplayer app defaults uses adaptive streaming and probably defaults to a lower resolution than iplayerwww.
Even in Windows it isn't always 1280x720.
Try turning the maximum bitrate for iplayerwww down in the Settings to give your device more of a chance to play smoothly.

You might also need to experiment with the hardware codec settings in Kodi\System Settings.
You might need to find a build optimised with the hardware codecs for your particular device.

The black issue might be because Kodi has been set to use a reduced range of colour levels.
Look for "use limited color range" and turn it off.

The current trend in Kodi development seems to be to add more modern features rather than keep it running on older hardware unfortunately.


New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - ed_davidson01 - 2018-04-03

(2018-04-03, 15:23)Shrike Wrote: @primaeval

Thanks for your suggestions. I have just installed EBMC on my box and then iplayerwww "works". However, it doesn't play smooth and stops playing altogether after a few seconds. Perhaps it is less efficient than Kodi 16.1 + iplayerwww v2.5.32 was and my box struggles with it.

So I guess that for me this is the end of an era with iplayerwww and will probably going back to the old clumsy way of downloading the content beforehand using get_iplayer and then playing it on Kodi because that runs very smooth.

Another thing I noticed is that with EBMC and also with the official BBC iPlayer app, black isn't really black but gray, as if you are looking at a slightly overexposed picture. This was another reason why I always preferred Jarvis + iplayerwww above the official iplayer. I always thought this had to do with the BBC iplayer app but now I think it may have to do with some compatibility thing because apparently using old software on my 3 year old hardware gives a better picture quality than running the newer software.


If your box is Amlogic see if you can install the far superior LibreELEC. It works great and on version 17.6.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - primaeval - 2018-04-03

Another option is to set an external player up for Android like MX Player.
You'll probably still need to use a Kodi fork though.
This is how to do it.
https://kodi.wiki/view/HOW-TO:Use_external_players_on_Android


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

xbmc, Kodi 16.1 and MX Player (pre-installed on my box) have the correct blacklevel, EMBC and BBC iPlayer app don't.
Regarding black level, I cannot find the "use limited color range" option in either EBMC or Kodi 16.1. But I think that setting may well be the cause of that black level problem. Where should I find that setting? I think I looked everywhere.

LibreELEC is something I would consider trying but I'm reluctant make big changes because all other stuff still runs fine. For movies (non streaming) I'm even still using the old xbmc that was pre-installed on my box and that works flawless so I really don't want to touch that right now. New things usually introduce new problems, like today's "upgrade" to EBMC introduces a blacklevel problem on for me. Fortunately I can play my movies on xbmc and Jarvis. No solution for iplayerwww though. 

BBC iPlayer app works, but less smooth than Jarvis + iplayerwww were before 1 April and it has this blacklevel problem too.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - primaeval - 2018-04-03

The black levels in 16.1 should be in
System\Settings\System\Video Output\Use Limited Color Range
Make sure the Settings Level is set to Expert.

I expect you'll have to upgrade at some point as more sites use https by default.
It is less easy but possible for nefarious people to steal your passwords and secret data that way.
Snowden and Farage have opened the world's eyes to the level of surveillance and hacking going on not only by criminals but corporations and governments too.
http is basically like shouting your password across the street to your neighbour. Anyone can listen.
I presume the BBC is trying to secure their content so the corporate side can make more money overseas.

The BBC is moving to mpeg-dash streams which don't work on any Jarvis fork as far as I know.
The same goes for Youtube and other popular sites.


RE: New plugin "iPlayer WWW" - Shrike - 2018-04-03

(2018-04-03, 17:39)primaeval Wrote: The black levels in 16.1 should be in
System\Settings\System\Video Output\Use Limited Color Range
Make sure the Settings Level is set to Expert.

I expect you'll have to upgrade at some point as more sites use https by default.
It is less easy but possible for nefarious people to steal your passwords and secret data that way.
Snowden and Farage have opened the world's eyes to the level of surveillance and hacking going on not only by criminals but corporations and governments too.
http is basically like shouting your password across the street to your neighbour. Anyone can listen.
I presume the BBC is trying to secure their content so the corporate side can make more money overseas.

The BBC is moving to mpeg-dash streams which don't work on any Jarvis fork as far as I know.
The same goes for Youtube and other popular sites.
 Very strange, I don't have that setting. I can get to Video Output in expert mode but on my box on Jarvis 16.1 there is no setting for Limited Color Range. Only "Stereoscopic 3D Mode", "Vertical Blank Sync" and "Video Calibration". I also cannot find a setting like that in xbmc or EBMC.

Anyway, the blacklevel is already good on Jarvis and correcting it on EBMC if it had such a setting still doesn't help me because it doesn't run iplayerwww properly on my box. Maybe one of the other forks will work, I'll have to try.

I agree I'll need to upgrade to https at some point. Youtube still works great but that is their own app, not a Kodi plugin.