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- slash - 2009-07-07
Thanks Gamester for the info and for the access to UMM.
I never noticed the difference between GPLv2 and GPLv3 (sometimes I'm an idiot)
But I dont' give up easely so there are still few options here :
1- Ask [email protected] for usage. There are some GPLv2 project using ExtJS.
I'm not sure I'm allowed to do that (may be someone more senior in the XBMC project can).
2- I could port it to jQuery/jQuery UI (BSD license) or YUI (BSD License). Less fancy but will do the job. Hope the licensing is compatible.
As I like challenges, guess what will happen ... ;-)
Cheers
- digitalhigh - 2009-07-07
What, exactly, is the difference between GPL 2 and GPL 3?
- slash - 2009-07-07
Can't really tell, but I'm not a lawyer
You may have a better understanding here.http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html
This table shows the compatibility list of GPL versions.
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility
- Gamester17 - 2009-07-07
Bram77 Wrote:Maybe ExtJS is willing to provide us with a license?It is not a question of cost for the license but an issue with license compatibility.
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility
digitalhigh Wrote:What, exactly, is the difference between GPL 2 and GPL 3?Well for starters XBMC as a GPLv2 project can not use code that is licensed under GPLv3, or any other code that is not compatible with GPLv2.
Also by principle (see FLOSS) XBMC should not depend on any code, libraries, or frameworks that are closed source and/or do not permit royalty free use for both commercial and non-commercial use, (remember that forks of XBMC can be commercial, so people/companies should be able to pre-install XBMC for commerial purposes without having to pay a royalty fee).
rernst Wrote:is there any reason why the API only allows for queries?Sorry I am not a developer myself, but I would think that it is probably already possible(?), I suggest you start a separate topic thread for that.
- badmoviesnbeer - 2009-07-08
On this page on the Ext site http://www.yui-ext.com/products/license.php they have a link to a page about license excpetions http://www.yui-ext.com/products/floss-exception.php and GPLv2 is listed as a possible license where an exception can be made.
I personally don't know if the usage in this case would follow all the Terms and Conditions of the license exception, but it probably wouldn't hurt to contact them.
- Gamester17 - 2009-07-08
badmoviesnbeer Wrote:On this page on the Ext site http://www.yui-ext.com/products/license.php they have a link to a page about license excpetions http://www.yui-ext.com/products/floss-exception.php and GPLv2 is listed as a possible license where an exception can be made.I still think that might clash with some forks of XBMC, such as example Boxee which is commercial (and parts of Boxee are not FLOSS open source) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxee
I personally don't know if the usage in this case would follow all the Terms and Conditions of the license exception, but it probably wouldn't hurt to contact them.
Any lawyers here?
- slash - 2009-07-10
Hi again,
How about making a web App using ExtJS as a Plugin / addon to XBMC that would be dowloaded seperatly ?
Would that be acceptable ? It will have it's own licensing usage terms and should not conflict with XBMC or Boxee or other.
Sorry to insist on this but I think it would be a valuable tool for XBMC users. I'm still willing to contribute to a UMM but I don't think we will have a release for it in the short term.
Anyway, I've already requested some info from licenses@extjs (via e-mail) and I'm hoping they will help us clarify the licensing usage with GPLv2 Projects.
- Bram77 - 2009-07-16
Nice! Are you using Extjs3, which has been released a few day's ago?
It has some really cool new features, like dynamic charts, tab grouping, and the row editor grid.
Also, I've been experiencing major performance issues in an application I'm writing with Extjs, which I've been able to cure with the new buffered GridPanel. I can imagine large movie and music database will result in performance issues....
http://extjs.com/deploy/dev/examples/grid/buffer.html
- kizer - 2009-07-16
Is there any movement on this project? I'm not a coder or anything, but I did read through this topic and since we don't have access to the developer thread just wondered if there was anything in the works.
- fekker - 2009-07-22
kizer Wrote:Is there any movement on this project? I'm not a coder or anything, but I did read through this topic and since we don't have access to the developer thread just wondered if there was anything in the works.
Starting to get things going with it, still lots to be decided on, but it will be done
- theotocopulitos - 2009-07-22
Hi,
not that I can help coding or anything... but looking for an Universal thing, I think it would be great if this tool could (a) either use the parsers that xbmc has included or (b) add support for user written additional parsers..., the idea is to be able to use parsers for other sites (mainly international -Spanish, French...-) than the typical English ones (IMDB, moviedb.org)... I have tried several of the tools out there and they work great for English, but no support for other languages or countries
thanks for listening
- Arr MiHardies - 2009-07-22
Looking forward to seeing something that will run on OSX natively.
Most of the media managers I try are either terribly slow doing their lookups, or don't detect most of my movies correctly, which is weird, considering I include the imdb code in the file name so scrapers can know exactly whiich imdb record to reference.
My file name format is "movie name [year] [imdb code].extension" occasionally with an [HD] flag if it is hd content. Please try to ensure when an imdb code is provided, that the scraper uses that code for a lookup.
Thank you.
- xyber - 2009-07-22
Can I get access to the subforums please. Think my time would be better spend working on something like this rather than a new version of my own.
- fekker - 2009-07-23
xyber Wrote:Can I get access to the subforums please. Think my time would be better spend working on something like this rather than a new version of my own.
maybe pm gamester17 - i'm sure he will add ya
- fekker - 2009-07-23
Arr MiHardies Wrote:Looking forward to seeing something that will run on OSX natively.
Most of the media managers I try are either terribly slow doing their lookups, or don't detect most of my movies correctly, which is weird, considering I include the imdb code in the file name so scrapers can know exactly whiich imdb record to reference.
My file name format is "movie name [year] [imdb code].extension" occasionally with an [HD] flag if it is hd content. Please try to ensure when an imdb code is provided, that the scraper uses that code for a lookup.
Thank you.
if you put the imdb inside of a .nfo file, it would use that id for almost all the media managers out there, i don't think any support imdb in the file name (could be wrong of course)
theotocopulitos Wrote:Hi,UMM will use the xbmc scrapers, and pretty much anything that xbmc can handle thanks to the scraper library, and lang support is also a key item as well.
not that I can help coding or anything... but looking for an Universal thing, I think it would be great if this tool could (a) either use the parsers that xbmc has included or (b) add support for user written additional parsers..., the idea is to be able to use parsers for other sites (mainly international -Spanish, French...-) than the typical English ones (IMDB, moviedb.org)... I have tried several of the tools out there and they work great for English, but no support for other languages or countries
thanks for listening