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RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Cinephile - 2015-09-05

(2015-09-05, 12:15)Dave the Minion Wrote:
(2015-09-05, 11:06)HomeTheatreGuru Wrote:
(2015-09-05, 10:55)Dave the Minion Wrote: It's built into the Aeon Nox Silvo skin I believe. I've had the code in my skin for awhile doing pre-beta testing. That's why I was rejoicing when it actually, finally worked. It's not hard code to implement if you have any skinning experience or know how to find the 1080i sub-folder in a skin folder and use Notepad++.

I see.

I'm on Aeon MQ6 so I might ask them to integrate the add-on if at all possible. It comes pre-installed with CE so I don't see why not.

The code is almost the same as CE so they should be able to integrate it pretty easy. Just direct them to the first post of this thread to find the code. It's like 30 seconds of tweaking the DialogVideoInfo.XML file.

Cheers, have sent them a request.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - P_Jamula - 2015-09-05

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See, and this is why I love doing this stuff. I had no idea that was a part of your culture on that side of the world. Technically, you could do that manually by using a program like Handbrake to cut your movie into two parts at a specific time, and queue up the two halves. I know that's a pain, so I'll be chatting with the developer about your request to see if it's something that's possible. If it is, and it's easy to do, we'll try to work it in. If not, it will have to wait until round two of development for the add-on. The risk you run with that feature is you might cut off a movie in the middle of dialog, so we'd have to think about ways to get around that.
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Great stuff!! would love it being done automatically. Handbrake is a pain. and of course when the movie restarts it goes back 10 seconds just like the current pause and restart function in the MAD NOX skin


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - wpbpete - 2015-09-05

(2015-09-05, 04:28)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote: For those keeping track, we've had 2 more releases since the initial Beta! Go get the update!

(2015-09-04, 21:05)wpbpete Wrote: Big Grin Awesome work guys
And soooo easy to to get it up and running, download, enable, launch, WoW! Big Grin


Question: The Audio Format Bumper is only playing 2.0 audio, I suppose it's because it's streaming a cvurl... I have a CE folder with actual audio files that I'm trying to point CV to but it won't pick up the entire folder, just individual files. What am I doing wrong?
Settings>audioformat>Method>File

That's correct. Any content streaming in from YouTube or most anywhere else will be in stereo, and not surround. If you download the audio format bumpers from the CinemaVIsion site, they are actually encoded in the correct audio format. You'll want to make sure your Audio Format Bumper Module is set to Autodetect, and make sure you put the correct bumpers that pertain to the formats in the %CVROOT%\Audio Format Bumpers\%FORMATNAME% folders. It will play a single bumper randomly from these folders.

Thanks for the info, is the root folder in addon_data or addons? I think at some point you'll need to allow CV to read a folder outside of the root, with so many of using use a ext-hdd's for everything.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Ragnarok - 2015-09-05

(2015-09-05, 05:33)mikesilvo164 Wrote: Hi Scott,
I just want to say thank you again and bring up a possible bug report...
Been playing around with the new Beta and I no longer have MPAA ratings bumper like in the last beta. In the log it looks like the MPAA is being deciphered as language. It is in the log below around line 1536.
Code:
Rating (MPAA): language

Debug Log

Mike, what language do you have Kodi set to, and what scraper did you use for your movies?

(2015-09-05, 06:30)Dave the Minion Wrote: Scott, how does CV know which videos are 2D and which are 3D? If I have 2 dtsHD Living World audio bumpers, one 2D and the other 3D, in the same dtsHD directory what is CV reading to play the 2D for the 2D sequence and similar for the 3D sequence? This is where I am confused as CE used different 3D specified folders for 3D content.

It looks for 3D filename tags. Take a look at the filenames for some of the bumpers on the CinemaVision website.

(2015-09-05, 06:46)Dave the Minion Wrote: Also, just to throw another kink into the chain but, it's cool CV can be used with TV shows now. But we need to be able to save a sequence for TV that's different than the 2D and 3D ones by default.

Personally if watching Band of Brothers or Game of Thrones it would be cool to see the audio and THX bumpers but I don't want to run all the other bumpers and trailers and such.

More work for the dev, I know. I'm a bad Minion.

TV functionality is only about half baked into the add-on. We'll be adding a TV Sequence to the list as well, so you can set that up differently than your standard 2D and 3D sequences. We've got a lot to work out before it's ready for use with TV as well.

(2015-09-05, 11:06)HomeTheatreGuru Wrote: I'm on Aeon MQ6 so I might ask them to integrate the add-on if at all possible. It comes pre-installed with CE so I don't see why not.

We've been in contact with Marcos and Wanilton, so I'd bet they're working on adding it.

(2015-09-05, 15:51)wpbpete Wrote: [quote='CinemaVision-Scott' pid='2098111' dateline='1441420116']
For those keeping track, we've had 2 more releases since the initial Beta! Go get the update!

[quote='wpbpete' pid='2097888' dateline='1441393501']
Thanks for the info, is the root folder in addon_data or addons? I think at some point you'll need to allow CV to read a folder outside of the root, with so many of using use a ext-hdd's for everything.

The %CVROOT% folder is going to be the directory that you set the Content path configuration setting to. CinemaVision can already read everything that's added to Kodi as a source, so we should be good.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - MidnightWatcher - 2015-09-05

(2015-09-05, 06:11)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote: Have you tried the other transitions? It's possible that fade is too much (however unlikely) for the Pi. I'll talk to our developer and see what he thinks. I don't have a Pi to test this, unfortunately. You might also try dialing the fade transition up and down to see if it becomes more reliable. Let me know what you find!

Hi Scott, I uninstalled .28 beta and installed the latest .30 beta. The problem still persisted, even when I tried other transitions and time adjustments. I then decided to move my content directory to the 16GB SD card of the RPi2 (everything was on an external drive previously shared over a wired Samba network). After moving everything to the SD card in the RPi2 the fade transitions are now smooth as expected. I'll run a few more test sequences and see if it the fade remains consistent. So far, so good.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Dave the Minion - 2015-09-05

(2015-09-05, 16:36)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote: It looks for 3D filename tags. Take a look at the filenames for some of the bumpers on the CinemaVision website.

Right now CV doesn't recognize my 3D name file tags to play the 3D sequence when I select a 3D movie. CE had a function to designate which flags to look for to denote a movie was 3D or not and you could add anything you liked. Is something similar being worked or can it be added to CV?

(2015-09-05, 16:36)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote: TV functionality is only about half baked into the add-on. We'll be adding a TV Sequence to the list as well, so you can set that up differently than your standard 2D and 3D sequences. We've got a lot to work out before it's ready for use with TV as well.

Again not sure how difficult these things are to add now that a lot of the groundwork has been done but couldn't a new default sequence by added to the config based on the container being a TV Show or episode? Might be a quicker fix than trying to overthink things. Just spit-balling here.

The ability to set-up a sequence, save it then go to another Kodi installation and easily recall the sequence is awesome. Getting CV to use local/shared folders will make that process even more awesome and simple as well. I do have another question though. Will CV forever only recognize the default directories in the user defined CV root folder or will it one day be able to access all custom folders and sub-folders contained within extending the default list and functions?


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - mikeSiLVO - 2015-09-06

(2015-09-05, 16:36)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote: Mike, what language do you have Kodi set to, and what scraper did you use for your movies?

Yeah, sorry about that. I should've provided more information since I do things a little differently than most but it was late and it never even occurred to me at the time of posting Confused

I use Rating Update to append the ListItem.MPAA with a reason for that rating so it can be displayed at the bottom of DialogVideoInfo.xml like in the pic below.
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I think that is the reason for what is happening but just in case, to answer your question above, I have English set as my language and use Universal Movie Scraper.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - marhutchy - 2015-09-06

So everything works for me apart from Bumper Ratings (Video).
I downloaded the MPAA Classic Ratings, and paste them here
Code:
C:\CinemaVision\Ratings Bumpers\MPAA
However, they aren't playing before the movie.
I'm playing Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back, which has a PG rating.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - coyote82 - 2015-09-06

With the IOS App XBMC Constellation, it was possible to start a Movie with Cinema Experience Script. A few Posts ago you were asking for the App. Would be great if the App could be used for your new Script as well. Perhaps it's workable to programm a workaround that CV is using same button as CE? I think this would be the easiest way for fast Skin and App integration?


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Dave the Minion - 2015-09-06

(2015-09-06, 10:09)coyote82 Wrote: With the IOS App XBMC Constellation, it was possible to start a Movie with Cinema Experience Script. A few Posts ago you were asking for the App. Would be great if the App could be used for your new Script as well. Perhaps it's workable to programm a workaround that CV is using same button as CE? I think this would be the easiest way for fast Skin and App integration?

How are you using the IOS app to launch your movies? Are you selecting a play button on the app or are you using the app as a remote to move the selector on screen around within the Kodi skin to pick the Play or Cinema Experience buttons built into the skin?

As mentioned adding the CV code to a skin is almost as easy as adding the CE code to the point the skin dev can copy the CE button code and just paste in 1 or 2 different lines. You can even have both CE and CV as options in 1 skin (but at this point CV does almost everything CV did and TONS more). Head into the skin thread and post a link to the first post of this thread for the dev's to integrate.

If you are using the app on an IOS or Android device to launch CE from within the app itself that's up to the app devs to work out. You'd have to get in touch with them.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - coyote82 - 2015-09-06

My idea is to go the easier way. No one will use CE and CV because there's no need. There for my idea was to use the already existing code to start CV which means only to change the right lines in the CV script so that Kodi and IOS app is thinking nothing has changed and it's still CE. Because it will take a long time until app developer etc. will add the new script...


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - wpbpete - 2015-09-06

(2015-09-04, 21:05)wpbpete Wrote: is the root folder in addon_data or addons? I think at some point you'll need to allow CV to read a folder outside of the root, with so many of using use a ext-hdd's for everything.
Quote:The %CVROOT% folder is going to be the directory that you set the Content path configuration setting to. CinemaVision can already read everything that's added to Kodi as a source, so we should be good.

Yes! Thank you.. I set up ContentPath on the ext-hdd and it works great Smile

I added all my old trivia slides, how far will CV scan recursively? ie: foldername>foldercontent>Indexedcontent>content

Also how do I get it to randomly choose from more slides folders? Right now it's only choosing slides from ~3 of them.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Gade - 2015-09-06

Hi CinemaVision-Scott.

Thanks a lot for this great add-on - it looks extremely promising Smile

I have added support in the Rapier skin.

Are seasons supported as well (currently you have listed Container.Content(Movies) | Container.Content(TVShows) | Container.Content(Episodes))?

Cheers
Gade


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Ragnarok - 2015-09-06

(2015-09-05, 18:30)MidnightWatcher Wrote:
(2015-09-05, 06:11)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote: Have you tried the other transitions? It's possible that fade is too much (however unlikely) for the Pi. I'll talk to our developer and see what he thinks. I don't have a Pi to test this, unfortunately. You might also try dialing the fade transition up and down to see if it becomes more reliable. Let me know what you find!

Hi Scott, I uninstalled .28 beta and installed the latest .30 beta. The problem still persisted, even when I tried other transitions and time adjustments. I then decided to move my content directory to the 16GB SD card of the RPi2 (everything was on an external drive previously shared over a wired Samba network). After moving everything to the SD card in the RPi2 the fade transitions are now smooth as expected. I'll run a few more test sequences and see if it the fade remains consistent. So far, so good.

Hey there! We haven't been testing on different hardware at all. Eventually we'll get to testing the Pi, but we've been focused on developing using nominally powerful HTPC hardware. I've been told by our developer that transitions are pretty resource intensive, and may not work well on platforms with minimal hardware capabilities. We'll keep this in our sights as we move towards a final release, though.

(2015-09-05, 22:37)Dave the Minion Wrote: Again not sure how difficult these things are to add now that a lot of the groundwork has been done but couldn't a new default sequence by added to the config based on the container being a TV Show or episode? Might be a quicker fix than trying to overthink things. Just spit-balling here.

The ability to set-up a sequence, save it then go to another Kodi installation and easily recall the sequence is awesome. Getting CV to use local/shared folders will make that process even more awesome and simple as well. I do have another question though. Will CV forever only recognize the default directories in the user defined CV root folder or will it one day be able to access all custom folders and sub-folders contained within extending the default list and functions?

We're actually working on revamping the way 3D is handled, and the ability to customize the tags used for it. Look for that in a future build. What you mentioned about having a sequence process specifically for TV Shows and Episodes is exactly the way we'll handle the TV functionality once we get it in the add-on, which may not happen at launch.

As far as recognizing only default CinemaVision directories, that will be the case for quick content, which enables you to quickly select a video from the default directories without browsing all the way to them. You can still use the Directory option (rather than selecting something like Trivia Intro) to have CinemaVision process custom directory content. You can access limitless nested folders using that method.

(2015-09-06, 03:36)mikesilvo164 Wrote: I use Rating Update to append the ListItem.MPAA with a reason for that rating so it can be displayed at the bottom of DialogVideoInfo.xml like in the pic below.

I think that is the reason for what is happening but just in case, to answer your question above, I have English set as my language and use Universal Movie Scraper.
(2015-09-06, 05:07)marhutchy Wrote: So everything works for me apart from Bumper Ratings (Video).
I downloaded the MPAA Classic Ratings, and paste them here
Code:
C:\CinemaVision\Ratings Bumpers\MPAA
However, they aren't playing before the movie.
I'm playing Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back, which has a PG rating.

We had only planned (and not implemented) the way Ratings Systems work with CinemaVision. We're putting the finishing touches on how we'll handle Ratings Systems now. The changes we're making should fix the issue you're both having.

(2015-09-06, 10:37)Dave the Minion Wrote:
(2015-09-06, 10:09)coyote82 Wrote: With the IOS App XBMC Constellation, it was possible to start a Movie with Cinema Experience Script. A few Posts ago you were asking for the App. Would be great if the App could be used for your new Script as well. Perhaps it's workable to programm a workaround that CV is using same button as CE? I think this would be the easiest way for fast Skin and App integration?

How are you using the IOS app to launch your movies? Are you selecting a play button on the app or are you using the app as a remote to move the selector on screen around within the Kodi skin to pick the Play or Cinema Experience buttons built into the skin?

As mentioned adding the CV code to a skin is almost as easy as adding the CE code to the point the skin dev can copy the CE button code and just paste in 1 or 2 different lines. You can even have both CE and CV as options in 1 skin (but at this point CV does almost everything CV did and TONS more). Head into the skin thread and post a link to the first post of this thread for the dev's to integrate.

If you are using the app on an IOS or Android device to launch CE from within the app itself that's up to the app devs to work out. You'd have to get in touch with them.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Big Grin

(2015-09-06, 12:50)coyote82 Wrote: My idea is to go the easier way. No one will use CE and CV because there's no need. There for my idea was to use the already existing code to start CV which means only to change the right lines in the CV script so that Kodi and IOS app is thinking nothing has changed and it's still CE. Because it will take a long time until app developer etc. will add the new script...

Just in case folks have both CE and CV installed, we can't go that route. It would create issues. We're getting a lot of support already from the community, and I suspect that will continue. With the community behind what we're doing here, skinners will have no trouble deciding to add us as a feature in their skins. As of this writing, we know of three skins that have added support for CinemaVision, and we're not even out of Beta!

(2015-09-06, 14:02)wpbpete Wrote: Yes! Thank you.. I set up ContentPath on the ext-hdd and it works great Smile

I added all my old trivia slides, how far will CV scan recursively? ie: foldername>foldercontent>Indexedcontent>content

Also how do I get it to randomly choose from more slides folders? Right now it's only choosing slides from ~3 of them.

CinemaVision will only read one level deep from the Trivia Slides directory. This is by design, as it makes scraping the content you have into our content database exponentially faster. If there's a broken XML file in the directory, or the naming scheme does not match (for Q&A slide decks) _q/_cX/_a, then CinemaVision will skip the directory when playing content. You can also add _Exclude to the beginning of any directory or content and CinemaVision will ignore it.

(2015-09-06, 14:13)Gade Wrote: Hi CinemaVision-Scott.

Thanks a lot for this great add-on - it looks extremely promising Smile

I have added support in the Rapier skin.

Are seasons supported as well (currently you have listed Container.Content(Movies) | Container.Content(TVShows) | Container.Content(Episodes))?

Cheers
Gade

Hey Gade! That's so formal, call me Scott, or Ragnarok. Big Grin Thanks for adding us! Seasons are not currently on the roadmap, and I'll tell you why. Our vision of how the TV piece of CinemaVision will work is to split up a number of episodes with intermissions, commercials and whatever you want. We didn't figure people would sit through an entire season with no breaks. Maybe that's something we add down the line, who knows!


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Gade - 2015-09-06

(2015-09-06, 17:19)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote:
(2015-09-06, 14:13)Gade Wrote: Hi CinemaVision-Scott.

Thanks a lot for this great add-on - it looks extremely promising Smile

I have added support in the Rapier skin.

Are seasons supported as well (currently you have listed Container.Content(Movies) | Container.Content(TVShows) | Container.Content(Episodes))?

Cheers
Gade

Hey Gade! That's so formal, call me Scott, or Ragnarok. Big Grin Thanks for adding us! Seasons are not currently on the roadmap, and I'll tell you why. Our vision of how the TV piece of CinemaVision will work is to split up a number of episodes with intermissions, commercials and whatever you want. We didn't figure people would sit through an entire season with no breaks. Maybe that's something we add down the line, who knows!

Haha, hi Scott Smile

That makes a lot of sense. I just wanted to be sure how to implement the best support.

Thanks again!