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RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Ragnarok - 2015-09-06

Sure thing! I did pose the question to our developer, I'll let you know what he says.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Dave the Minion - 2015-09-06

When the TV Shows default sequence is added you could easily set that up to play an entire season by queing each episode. It's not automatic but would work and if you just want to binge watch without breaks. Set your TV sequence to go from "feature" to "feature" without anything in between. It's just getting that first default TV sequence built in Wink

For those who keep asking about using various phone/tablet apps I know I keep asking just how you are utilizing said apps. The distinction is that for skinners who already support CE adding CV is not at all difficult now that the function executes. But if you are using the app itself, a button within the app or by default the in-app's play button with launch CE then it is up to the app dev to update to support CV. If you simply use the app instead of a keyboard or remote to navigate within any CE supported skin and select the skin's CE button then the code is out there for the skin dev's to add which has been done. Posting this information about how the app you are using functions is the key to figuring out who to ask to add CV support. Help Scott and the skinner/app devs help you with as much info as you can so we can all help each other out.

Scott, there may be an issue with the way CV catalogs files in the CV root. I think it doesn't do a 'clean' when it scans new content instead just looking for new items. After changing or deleting a file from one of the default root folders I believe CV will still think it's there even after an update scan and if it cue's one of these now changed/gone items it will cause a 'skip' in the sequence. You might want to test that out more to see.

Another thing (I'll run out of these at some point) is a possibility to have an exclude command built into certain containers. For my example using local Kodi database trailers. All my 3D movies have 3D trailers (most are 'fake' 3D but good enough) that I don't want to play when I run a 2D movie. So if in the Trailer module where I can set the quantity and random functions if there's an Exclude function I can set to 'Filename Contains ______' and similar then CV would ignore hsbs as a trigger to not play local database 3D trailers. If I change the include to 'does not contain' then it would only play local trailers with hsbs name tags. Could lend itself to more options like 'filename contains Star Wars' and then CV will only play trailers for Star Wars films. Depending on how difficult this exclude command is and the more variables that could be built in would make the possibilities become endless.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Levi59 - 2015-09-06

When do you think add new sources for trailers? I look forward to start my trailers in french ^^


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - f@ve_96 - 2015-09-07

I just had an error while trying to start my CV-sequence from the movie information screen (skin: aeon nox silvo).

http://xbmclogs.com/ppjnrryn5

must be in line 369 or 401 but i can't figure out what i did wrong.
Could anybody help?

(PS: playing the sequence in the CV addon no errors occur)


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Ragnarok - 2015-09-07

(2015-09-06, 22:38)Dave the Minion Wrote: When the TV Shows default sequence is added you could easily set that up to play an entire season by queing each episode. It's not automatic but would work and if you just want to binge watch without breaks. Set your TV sequence to go from "feature" to "feature" without anything in between. It's just getting that first default TV sequence built in Wink

There's a bit more too it for TV. One of the things we want to do is allow you all to set "Every X episodes, I want an intermission." or "Every X episodes, I want a commercial from this specific era or subject matter.". We basically want to enable the user to become their own television producer, and have complete freedom to re-create any television reel they want.

(2015-09-06, 22:38)Dave the Minion Wrote: For those who keep asking about using various phone/tablet apps I know I keep asking just how you are utilizing said apps. The distinction is that for skinners who already support CE adding CV is not at all difficult now that the function executes. But if you are using the app itself, a button within the app or by default the in-app's play button with launch CE then it is up to the app dev to update to support CV. If you simply use the app instead of a keyboard or remote to navigate within any CE supported skin and select the skin's CE button then the code is out there for the skin dev's to add which has been done. Posting this information about how the app you are using functions is the key to figuring out who to ask to add CV support. Help Scott and the skinner/app devs help you with as much info as you can so we can all help each other out.

Well put! Being the new kid on the block usually comes with growing pains as far as support for our add-on is concerned. The more information we have, the better.

(2015-09-06, 22:38)Dave the Minion Wrote: Scott, there may be an issue with the way CV catalogs files in the CV root. I think it doesn't do a 'clean' when it scans new content instead just looking for new items. After changing or deleting a file from one of the default root folders I believe CV will still think it's there even after an update scan and if it cue's one of these now changed/gone items it will cause a 'skip' in the sequence. You might want to test that out more to see.

Can you provide a log where you have scraped in your trivia content, then exited the add-on, remove some content (don't just exclude it) and force a scrape of the content from the add-on configuration? I'm not seeing this behavior on mine.

(2015-09-06, 22:38)Dave the Minion Wrote: Another thing (I'll run out of these at some point) is a possibility to have an exclude command built into certain containers. For my example using local Kodi database trailers. All my 3D movies have 3D trailers (most are 'fake' 3D but good enough) that I don't want to play when I run a 2D movie. So if in the Trailer module where I can set the quantity and random functions if there's an Exclude function I can set to 'Filename Contains ______' and similar then CV would ignore hsbs as a trigger to not play local database 3D trailers. If I change the include to 'does not contain' then it would only play local trailers with hsbs name tags. Could lend itself to more options like 'filename contains Star Wars' and then CV will only play trailers for Star Wars films. Depending on how difficult this exclude command is and the more variables that could be built in would make the possibilities become endless.

We've got a universal exclude command that we just haven't showcased yet. Big Grin If you prefix a directory name with _Exclude, CinemaVision will ignore it. You can create directories called _Exclude, and then dump any files you don't want played into that directory. You can also add ._Exclude to the end of a file extension you want ignored and CinemaVision will ignore it. The filename tagging is going to go in the Command Module, but it's not there, yet. You'll be able to use filename tagging as a conditional statement within your sequence, eventually. What you're talking about is more in-depth than that, but it's not a bad idea. When we start implementing filename tagging, we'll keep that in mind.

(2015-09-06, 22:51)Levi59 Wrote: When do you think add new sources for trailers? I look forward to start my trailers in french ^^

We've talked about how to do that, but it probably wont be there in the initial release. It's going to take a ton of planning and coding to figure out how to do it properly. In the meantime, you can download trailers in any language and video format, then put them in the %CVROOT%\Trailers directory, or store them in your library as trailers, then change the settings in the Trailers Module to use those trailers instead. It's a bit manual at the moment, but it will work.

(2015-09-07, 09:21)f@ve_96 Wrote: I just had an error while trying to start my CV-sequence from the movie information screen (skin: aeon nox silvo).

http://xbmclogs.com/ppjnrryn5

must be in line 369 or 401 but i can't figure out what i did wrong.
Could anybody help?

(PS: playing the sequence in the CV addon no errors occur)

It looks like the error in CinemaVision was a 503 error when trying to pull trailers from Apple iTunes. It's possible there was a hiccup with their website that caused that. I also noticed that you're using the default CinemaVision sequence, but it doesn't look like your 2D sequence has been set in the configuration. We've fixed that in the next version, but if you want to run CV from anywhere outside of the add-on, it's a good idea to set the 2D and 3D sequence first.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Skank - 2015-09-07

More video bumpers like cell phone policy / coca cola or put on 3d glasses
or welcome to this home theater would be very welcome :p


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - f@ve_96 - 2015-09-07

(2015-09-07, 15:16)CinemaVision-Scott Wrote:
(2015-09-07, 09:21)f@ve_96 Wrote: I just had an error while trying to start my CV-sequence from the movie information screen (skin: aeon nox silvo).

http://xbmclogs.com/ppjnrryn5

must be in line 369 or 401 but i can't figure out what i did wrong.
Could anybody help?

(PS: playing the sequence in the CV addon no errors occur)

It looks like the error in CinemaVision was a 503 error when trying to pull trailers from Apple iTunes. It's possible there was a hiccup with their website that caused that. I also noticed that you're using the default CinemaVision sequence, but it doesn't look like your 2D sequence has been set in the configuration. We've fixed that in the next version, but if you want to run CV from anywhere outside of the add-on, it's a good idea to set the 2D and 3D sequence first.

Thanks Scott! After setting the 2D sequence it works.
Now there's another problem though.
The very first video bumper (it's a custom clip) just shows a completely black screen. Colors and menu only come back when the second video bumper (it's one from the CV website) starts.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Ragnarok - 2015-09-07

(2015-09-07, 15:46)Skank Wrote: More video bumpers like cell phone policy / coca cola or put on 3d glasses
or welcome to this home theater would be very welcome :p

Many more are coming!

(2015-09-07, 16:05)f@ve_96 Wrote: Thanks Scott! After setting the 2D sequence it works.
Now there's another problem though.
The very first video bumper (it's a custom clip) just shows a completely black screen. Colors and menu only come back when the second video bumper (it's one from the CV website) starts.

Make sure you force a content update via the configuration/settings for the add-on. It may not have scraped that video in. If that doesn't do it, tell me about the file. What's the extension, what's the name, etc. Also shoot over a log for me to review. Maybe there's something telling in it.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Skank - 2015-09-07

Cool cant wait!


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - wpbpete - 2015-09-07

cool beans Smile I just noticed the context menu queues up the highlighted video Smile Nice!!


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - MidnightWatcher - 2015-09-07

Hi Scott, possible bug in the .30 beta. I am unable to change the selection for the Trivia Intro after changing Random to "No" and selecting a specific video. I've included another video bumper in the directory and refreshed everything, but when I attempt to select a different video nothing happens. This may also be true for other non-random selections.

Also, it would be good to select a specific subfolder under the trivia option. For example, if I play a Pixar film I'd like to have a sequence that would play Pixar-related trivia/slides only.

Using the OpenELEC 5.95.5 beta on the RPi2.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Mark142 - 2015-09-07

Sorry if I'm being silly here, how do you get this to work. Ive set up a sequence and saved a default. But I can not find the context menu option to play cinemavison. I am running latest version of Aeon Nox Silvo and openelec 5.95.5.

Thanks


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - MidnightWatcher - 2015-09-07

(2015-09-07, 22:10)Mark142 Wrote: Sorry if I'm being silly here, how do you get this to work. Ive set up a sequence and saved a default. But I can not find the context menu option to play cinemavison. I am running latest version of Aeon Nox Silvo and openelec 5.95.5.

Check out Scott's video demo in the original post. Until skins start including support for CV this is the quickest way.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - GoofyJeff - 2015-09-07

(2015-09-07, 22:10)Mark142 Wrote: Sorry if I'm being silly here, how do you get this to work. Ive set up a sequence and saved a default. But I can not find the context menu option to play cinemavison. I am running latest version of Aeon Nox Silvo and openelec 5.95.5.

Thanks

If you want to launch from the Context Menu, you need to also download the Context Menu Launcher from the website, I believe.


RE: CinemaVision Add-on: Create a Movie Theater Experience at Home - Mark142 - 2015-09-07

(2015-09-07, 22:15)MidnightWatcher Wrote:
(2015-09-07, 22:10)Mark142 Wrote: Sorry if I'm being silly here, how do you get this to work. Ive set up a sequence and saved a default. But I can not find the context menu option to play cinemavison. I am running latest version of Aeon Nox Silvo and openelec 5.95.5.

Check out Scott's video demo in the original post. Until skins start including support for CV this is the quickest way.

I watched again and still don't see what I'm doing wrong. I have the folders created in the directory. How do I get it to play trailers etc when I play a movie. It still just plays the movie.