(2013-09-12, 15:58)hoopsdavis Wrote:

(2013-09-12, 15:54)scarecrow420 Wrote: interestingly, swapping back to Frodo again, the exact same ServerWMC backend (as just released by krusty) seems to be giving me consitently 1 - 4s backend channel changes (seen from timings in log file) whereas when i was using Gotham XBMC the exact same backend was varying out to 9 seconds on some changes. I cant see how though because there arent any backend changes between the 2, and any client side changes i made for Gotham support were really just about making the new PVR API version compatilibity changes and couldnt possibly impact how the ServerWMC is processing the stream descriptors. Doesnt make sense But yeah I did over 20 channel changes on Frodo and they have all been 1 - 4 seconds at the backend.

That's great. Your channels are they all QAM or are you also running from a set-top-box?

I have both and I get 3 - 4s on QAM channels, and I get from 5 - 6.5s on digital (set-top-box connected) channels.
I'm running hauppauge tuners (hd-pvr for digital channels and hauppauge 1600 for QAM)

(2013-09-12, 22:43)scott967 Wrote:

(2013-09-12, 01:35)krustyreturns Wrote: Sorry about that. The remuxer crashed at something we call the '20 minute' problem, and it looks like the tuner wasn't successfully shut down after that. Restarting the server should clean these files up (or you can delete tempxbmc yourself if you want). Also the genre dictionary not being loaded was a bug in the redesign of the installer that wasn't caught before it was released.

That's the bad news. The good news is all of the above has been addressed in the new version of the server. I will be putting it up shortly.

I am not sure what's going on with your channel icons, it is supposed to just work on the remote client. I'll look into it and request more info if I need it.

(2013-09-12, 03:32)hoopsdavis Wrote: scott967, check your networked client under > Settings > Live TV > Menu/OSD There you can check is the "Default Folder for PVR Thumbnails" is pointing to the wrong location. I had to point my networked client to the folder holding my channel icons.

Thanks. I could delete the .ts file but the .wtv file was locked so I did a re-boot.

On the icons, I didn't set anything on either local or remote client, and guisettings shows "searchicons" as empty. So I looked at the local XBMC12.2 TV22.db and it is showing the icons as

Code:

C:\ProgramData\MyChannelLogos\Logos\Color\filename.png

I don't know how the local XBMC found them, but it did (I assumed it was from the WMC server?). I used the app "my channel logos XL" on Win 8 to set up the icons so I'm sure that has something to do with it. From looking at the folders on the local where I have WMC server set to use

Code:

C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\

as the windows smb shared folder I see a subfolder "\imageCache\ChannelIcons\" which I assume that the WMC server should copy the icons for use by both local/remote clients? I'm not going to share C:\ProgramData but I could copy over the icons of course.

scott s.
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(2013-09-12, 23:28)scarecrow420 Wrote:

(2013-09-12, 15:58)hoopsdavis Wrote:

(2013-09-12, 15:54)scarecrow420 Wrote: interestingly, swapping back to Frodo again, the exact same ServerWMC backend (as just released by krusty) seems to be giving me consitently 1 - 4s backend channel changes (seen from timings in log file) whereas when i was using Gotham XBMC the exact same backend was varying out to 9 seconds on some changes. I cant see how though because there arent any backend changes between the 2, and any client side changes i made for Gotham support were really just about making the new PVR API version compatilibity changes and couldnt possibly impact how the ServerWMC is processing the stream descriptors. Doesnt make sense But yeah I did over 20 channel changes on Frodo and they have all been 1 - 4 seconds at the backend.

That's great. Your channels are they all QAM or are you also running from a set-top-box?

I have both and I get 3 - 4s on QAM channels, and I get from 5 - 6.5s on digital (set-top-box connected) channels.
I'm running hauppauge tuners (hd-pvr for digital channels and hauppauge 1600 for QAM)

Im in Australia so we dont have QAM, we have DVB-T terrestrial over the air broadcast, to an aerial on the roof and coax cable into the TV tuner. So no cable boxes or decoding cards etc. There are about 33 channels, some HD and some SD. Im not actually sure of the differences in each channel ie encopding type etc. Maybe we can add that info to the ServerWMC UI to identify some particulars of the selected channel while live streaming or recording (currently we just show the name/number and show)

Also incase anyone cares im using PS3 PlayTV units via USB as my tuner cards, with a windows driver for another card that happens to use the same chipset... they seem to work brilliantly so I actually bought 2 now (one for dev machine and one for main HTPC). I then have another HTPC in a bedroom with no TV tuner so ideally once XBMC TV stuff is working well enough, I will hook that XBMC through to the one running the ServerWMC backend. My main issue I have is that both HTPC only have 60GB SSD drives so space is an issue, particularly with ServerWMC that records then demuxes and if you leave it on one channel for hours, it takes up GBs and GBs of temporary file space To solve that for now I have mounted via iSCSI a D: drive to the HTPC from my NAS but of course that means the storage access to the recordings and TempXBMC area is over GB LAN which probably isnt great.

My development machine which is where im testing the channel changes etc has local disks though, so the iSCSI stuff shouldnt come into play there.

(2013-09-12, 20:50)Dilligaf Wrote: Here it is https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30655053/LiveTV_mike-PC_ClearQAM_240_2013_09_12_14_47_30.wtv

(2013-09-12, 22:43)scott967 Wrote: as the windows smb shared folder I see a subfolder "\imageCache\ChannelIcons\" which I assume that the WMC server should copy the icons for use by both local/remote clients? I'm not going to share C:\ProgramData but I could copy over the icons of course.

scott s.
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(2013-09-13, 00:19)ferretlegs Wrote: First of all, a big thank you to Krusty (and others) for finally bridging the gap between WMC and other media centers. I'm new to the xbmc community but I've been using wmc for over ten years. I've dabbled with just about every other TV backend and front end combination over the years (myth, mp etc etc), but have always ended up sticking with WMC and xbox 360 extenders due to the picture quality and 'just works' aspects of guide and scheduled recordings. It is a long overdue breath of fresh air to hope that this solid WMC back end can be retained for live tv / recordings whilst utilising the amazing (and lightyears ahead) front end of xbmc for everything else now including live tv streaming. So you can imagine since finding this thread the excitement of trying this approach and having it work first go! It works great! Sure the channel changing is not amazingly quick, but a reasonable price to pay if everything else works as advertised.

Obviously this is still in its initial stages so there are bound to be other things that come up. From my experiences so far the only issues I have encountered (using 1063 / 1009 build) are:
1. Unable to play one group of channels from one FTA broadaster (in Australia we use DVB-T cards and one broadcaster may have two or three SD/HD channels). All other channels work fine except the broadcasts from the '7' network (in Aus this is channels 7, 70, 72, 73 and 74). These channels work fine from within wmc itself.
2. I have noticed that the recorded tv\temprec\tmpSBE folder continues fill overnight and is cleared (partly with a few exceptions) when the wmcserver is stopped. The rest must be cleared manually. Note that this folder continues to fill with 250-300mb files even when the server has been started but not asked to do anything (ie no client connected)
3. I have noticed a few small wtv files (around 500K) in tempxcmc\savedfordebug folder which I suspect relate to problem 1 above

I have been blown away by xbmc since revisiting it after a number of years. This new integration with wmc means that my hated xbox360's may finally be retired and the whir of their disgracefully loud cooling fans may now be silenced forever.

Am happy to post log files, error wtv's etc if wanted, but just not sure how / where to put them.

Congrats again Krusty!

(2013-09-13, 01:08)ferretlegs Wrote: The SBE folder now has about 10 files of around 500mb each........

(2013-09-13, 00:03)krustyreturns Wrote: You are right, if the server finds channel logos on the server machine from the wmc database, it copies the logos to 'tempxbmc\imageCache\ChannelIcons\', it puts them there because this folder is visible to the clients. Do you see any icon images in this folder? That would at least give me a starting point.

(2013-09-13, 08:04)hoopsdavis Wrote: Krusty, one feature I'vd like to request. When watching live tv and a show starts recording on a different channel than what you're watching. Is it possible to add the feature to tune to the channel being recorded instead of getting the message "Stream Timeout" and the picture freezing.

The recording does start but I think tuning to that channel would make more sense. (If it can be done)