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RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-14
(2013-08-14, 19:16)t-magnus Wrote:(2013-08-14, 17:12)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-14, 17:09)mitch1 Wrote: This looks ACE! - can't wait to get home nd try it out.. So I take it that the channel change delays of other back-ends are gone? is this just as quick as native 7MC?
No its much slower. There is still work to do.
Krusty, first, thanks for this. I never thought the other thread was serious because every post I read seemed to be on a different topic.
As for the slow channel changes... have you (or anyone) tried Margo's build? available here:
http://www.scintilla.utwente.nl/~marcelg/xbmc/prebuild.html#frodo
Lastly, for those of us new to the party, could you tell us what your working setup includes? Mostly, what type of TV signal you use. (cablecard, ATSC, NTSC analog...)
Thanks again,
Tommy
I debug on a system with cable and ATSC. Our main media center server has four cable tuners. Nothing fancy - i'm too cheap. I have three client media computers (that I would love to replace with ras pi sometime).
RE: WMC as the backend - released - ejezuba - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-14, 17:37)hoopsdavis Wrote: Thanks Eje
What's the time on channel changing for you, 3 - 5 seconds?
About 5-6 seconds
RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-15
Should TVserver in xbmc be disabled?
RE: WMC as the backend - released - surge919 - 2013-08-15
my main usage of the client would be from a raspberry pi and usage for testing is a Mac.
what kind of info can I provide to help get this working on them?
thanks
RE: WMC as the backend - released - bungee91 - 2013-08-15
(from reading of the previous thread) Does this still not work for Windows 8?
Is there anything I can test, log, do to help with the resolution of that?
The only real benefit I have from Windows 8 is the far superior Netflix app that the wife uses daily, so I'm kind of stuck with it.
Thanks for working on this so diligently!
RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-15
Does anyone know how to add missing channels. I tried using "Guide Tool" but the "Add Channel" option remains grayed out
RE: WMC as the backend - released - ejezuba - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-15, 14:57)hoopsdavis Wrote: Does anyone know how to add missing channels. I tried using "Guide Tool" but the "Add Channel" option remains grayed out
Add missing channels from within MCE - Tasks>Settings>TV>Guide
See video:
RE: WMC as the backend - released - trevf - 2013-08-15
Hi, do the subtitles work on live tv when wmc is used as the backend?
Also thank you for creating the addon to allow wmc to work with xbmc.
Thanks Trevor
RE: WMC as the backend - released - Jmhthefirst - 2013-08-15
Will this be developed for iOS? WMC on iPad would be swell.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-15, 05:23)surge919 Wrote: my main usage of the client would be from a raspberry pi and usage for testing is a Mac.
what kind of info can I provide to help get this working on them?
thanks
There are a number of questions about porting the client to other platforms. I only have the capability of compiling and testing on windows to date. Another developer worked on the client code to get rid of the windows specific stuff I had originally put in it, so the code SHOULD BE fairly easy to port to other systems.
So we just need someone to take on porting to the desired system, then we will need people to test it - like yourself. I made the client code available on the website. So yeah, tell your coding friends. Like I said, I would love to have it in ras pi myself. And I would like the help.
(2013-08-15, 15:38)trevf Wrote: Hi, do the subtitles work on live tv when wmc is used as the backend?
Also thank you for creating the addon to allow wmc to work with xbmc.
Thanks Trevor
In my testing, sub titles do not work, and for that matter they don't work even when the recorded wtv files are played in xbmc. I assume it is a xbmc/wtv thing. All I can tell you from my end, is that I take the subtitle stream from the wtv file and mux it into the ts stream that is being played in live tv mode. We need somebody more knowledgeable in this stuff than me to enlighten us. Even better to help develop it.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-15, 15:26)ejezuba Wrote:(2013-08-15, 14:57)hoopsdavis Wrote: Does anyone know how to add missing channels. I tried using "Guide Tool" but the "Add Channel" option remains grayed out
Add missing channels from within MCE - Tasks>Settings>TV>Guide
See video:
Yeah I haven't put this editing of channel feature into xbmc, mostly because as a one time setup type thing its easier to do in wmc. I would like to put a more flexible channel editor in the server though. Its on my todo list.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-15, 01:16)ejezuba Wrote:(2013-08-14, 17:37)hoopsdavis Wrote: Thanks Eje
What's the time on channel changing for you, 3 - 5 seconds?
About 5-6 seconds
I think you are being generous here. It takes longer than that for me and I wrote the dang thing.
As a recap for this new thread, here is where this live-tv stuff is:
There are two approaches that I have tried for live tv. Remuxing to ts, which is what is implemented now. I think that this could be sped up, but I need to work on it and I've got some other things ahead of it in the queue right now. I will definitely get back to this though, mostly because I think its a fun puzzle to work on (not because I ever watch live tv - lol).
There is also direct streaming of the active wtv file which Jeff did a lot of work on and had a brilliant breakthrough with, but his new job seems to have derailed him before he could fix some big issues that were still on his plate (the biggest of which is a total crash of xbmc after about 20 minutes of video). Hopefully Jeff is not gone permanently, but I haven't heard from him so who knows. He had modified the ffmpeg code to handle 'live' wtv files. If anybody wants to continue his work is out there, I'm sure I could get the code from Jeff. I would love to see this happen, as I'm sure many others would also.
So again, any developers out there who want a fun project to work on, I could use the help.
--kr
(2013-08-15, 03:02)hoopsdavis Wrote: Should TVserver in xbmc be disabled?
Sorry, I am not sure what your are referring to.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-15, 14:38)bungee91 Wrote: (from reading of the previous thread) Does this still not work for Windows 8?
Is there anything I can test, log, do to help with the resolution of that?
The only real benefit I have from Windows 8 is the far superior Netflix app that the wife uses daily, so I'm kind of stuck with it.
Thanks for working on this so diligently!
I didn't know that win 8 has a better netflix app. Thanks..
I am fairly confident there should be no issue with the core of the code working in win8, mostly because wmc is supposed to be the same as win7. The problem is that the installer I use for the server, which uses MS's one click deployment, doesn't work in win8. I love one click-deployment, it is dead simple. I have a little bit of experience with the older way of doing installers and I found it to be a big headache.
I tried debugging this with a tester remotely but it was just going to slow so it was abandoned. I need to get a win8 machine with wmc up for me to figure it out, and I don't have that yet. But if netflix is better, I've got more incentive now. I will get on this.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - spidertnt - 2013-08-15
(2013-08-15, 18:03)krustyreturns Wrote: Yeah I haven't put this editing of channel feature into xbmc, mostly because as a one time setup type thing its easier to do in wmc. I would like to put a more flexible channel editor in the server though. Its on my todo list.
I know this is not anything to do with WMC channels but it would be great add custom channel on the server....for example internet stream. This for me would complete the cut the cable solution in one nice package.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - indy5 - 2013-08-15
I have a question regarding encrypted and copy-once channels. Do these work using this solution? I am on TWC and all is marked copy-once and some of my channels work, but not many so far.
Thanks for the info