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RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - bossanova808 - 2023-04-02

Hmm, no, these aren't image type subtitles (and they are tv shows, not movies). 

The standard font is used, it's just the location that's a bit crazy.

I can't remember which particular show was doing this but next time I see it I'll inspect the file to work out the format, but I've seen PGS type subs and it definitely wasn't those.


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - bossanova808 - 2023-04-03

Yep, so for example my Ted Lasso S03E02 - has subtitles appearing at the top, and is definitely using text based subs

Code:

Text #1
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : UTF-8
Codec ID                                 : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info                            : UTF-8 Plain Text
Duration                                 : 45 min 38 s
Bit rate                                 : 82 b/s
Frame rate                               : 0.271 FPS
Count of elements                        : 742
Stream size                              : 27.5 KiB (0%)
Language                                 : English
Default                                  : No
Forced                                   : No


I extracted the subs with ffmpeg to srt:

ffmpeg -i "Ted Lasso - S03E02 - (I Don’t Want to Go to) Chelsea.mkv" -c copy -map 0Confused:0 subs.srt[/syntax] (that's 0 : s : 0 without the spaces and the stupid smiley parsing!)

and there is {\an8} in front of the subs that display at the top:

Code:

25
00:02:17,554 --> 00:02:19,848
{\an8}You know, they got a big old Ziploc bag
full of your hair ties

Which a quick Google indeed says is a special tag for 'Display At Top'.  I understand it's a creative decision of the director/studio/whatever, but I find it distracting as all heck.

...so, ideally, an option to ignore these location tip type of things would be great (or perhaps the existing 'Override Subtitle Fonts' should even do this by default?)


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - Doktor-X - 2023-04-03

@bossanova808, 1.5% trick works quite well


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - jjd-uk - 2023-04-04

I guess this is similar to https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=372705 and most likely the same answer applies, edit the subtitle file to remove those tags if they are unwanted.


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - bossanova808 - 2023-04-04

Well, yes, that is similar - but clearly that is impractical as a suggestion for a fix.  I'll reply there as seems like that is where the ongoing discussion is


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - hurricane51 - 2023-05-09

In version 19, the settings for subtitle position are Bottom of Video and Below Video. I've found that below video works fine for SRT (text) subtitles, especially for 2.35 wide screen videos where there is a black bar below the video so the sub doesn't obscure any portion of the video.
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However, in version 20, the settings are Bottom of Video and Bottom of Screen. Bottom of Screen is not bottom of screen on a wide screen video (2.35). The first line of the subtitle appears directly underneath the video, but if it has two or more lines, the additional lines impinge up into the video. In other words, the subtitle doesn't start at the bottom of the screen, it starts just below the video and creeps into the video as lines are added. I feel this is a bug.


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - hurricane51 - 2023-05-09

I should have added, you can get the same results (position at the bottom of the screen) by choosing Manual as position. You can adjust the Vertical Spacing by a few percent (depending on the font) to suit.


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - Rouzax - 2023-06-08

Just switched from Kodi 19 to 20 and also have issues with the subtitle position. Really like the bottom of the screen that 19 offered

Edit:
Never mind, have found there is a new setting allowing vertical margin.


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - Wanilton - 2023-06-22

@CastagnaIT and @CrystalP and @jjd-uk

Please is possible check if changing one font to another in Legends is working (Kodi Nexus and Omega), here only list 1. I put in media/fonts and don´t appear to choose another font. (Settings. Playlback, Subtitles, fonts) press enter, only list 1 font, before I remember show all available in the media folder.

Using Windows OS 11 here x64


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - CastagnaIT - 2023-06-23

(2023-06-22, 19:45)Wanilton Wrote: @CastagnaIT and @CrystalP and @jjd-uk

Please is possible check if changing one font to another in Legends is working (Kodi Nexus and Omega), here only list 1. I put in media/fonts and don´t appear to choose another font. (Settings. Playlback, Subtitles, fonts) press enter, only list 1 font, before I remember show all available in the media folder.

Using Windows OS 11 here x64

or you are using wrong folder or unsupported font type:
https://kodi.wiki/view/Kodi_data_folder

currently supported are ttf and otf


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - Wanilton - 2023-06-23

@CastagnaIT

Thanks, put one new ttf font, in program files - kodi - media - fonts

Only list one font (arial). Someone rename the actual font to arial, btw appears when browse the correct font name Dejavu Sans.

Image

Image

Image

Before when I put one second font appeared. 

Thanks for help me.

Wanilton


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - izprtxqkft - 2023-06-23

@Wanilton

program files is the wrong location

they need to go into the kodi folder under application data


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - Wanilton - 2023-06-23

I know, more than 10 years of using Kodi.

But it´s worked before, something was changed.

PS I test using userdata, and work well there.


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - izprtxqkft - 2023-06-23

(2023-06-23, 18:51)Wanilton Wrote: I know, more than 10 years of using Kodi.

But it´s worked before, something was changed.

PS I test using userdata, and work well there.

then after 9 1/2 years they moved it on you i guess

no worries though, nothing works the same as it did in 1993 when i started in computers either - developers keep changing stuff *ugh* (sarcasm)


RE: Subtitles Position Debacle - jjd-uk - 2023-06-23

It was changed as user supplied anything shouldn't go in the install folder due to risk of it being wiped. Since subtitles were being completely reworked I guess it was fealt now was the time to change it to what it always should have been.