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RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - cozmo - 2013-08-03

(2013-08-03, 13:24)Mudislander Wrote: Actually shouldn't the year be showing in the title Big Grin

Told ya Big Grin

Reading it from db instead from file should fix that for everybody.


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - jmh2002 - 2013-08-03

@Mudislander: Remember how you fixed the conflict between DialogInfoScreen and XBMC logo in top left corner? I noticed we have a similar problem between the XBMC logo and the Weather, when XBMC is waiting at the Login screen (Im using multiple profiles).


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - Mudislander - 2013-08-03

(2013-08-03, 18:26)cozmo Wrote:
(2013-08-03, 13:24)Mudislander Wrote: Actually shouldn't the year be showing in the title Big Grin

Told ya Big Grin

Reading it from db instead from file should fix that for everybody.

Hmm, actually used the tag "VideoPlayer.Title" so will have to dig a bit deeper

(2013-08-03, 20:25)jmh2002 Wrote: @Mudislander: Remember how you fixed the conflict between DialogInfoScreen and XBMC logo in top left corner? I noticed we have a similar problem between the XBMC logo and the Weather, when XBMC is waiting at the Login screen (Im using multiple profiles).

Will look Smile


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - o007 - 2013-08-04

Quote:Anyone got any preferences on order of buttons - eg: Defaults to subtitles button

Yes to subtitles buttonSmile


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - Mudislander - 2013-08-04

Another post about Min Spec Machines just to keep it in the public eye.

Originally with Mod was done to bring back some of the functionality that Confluence lost due to these machines becoming popular and was intended for "Fat boy Machines". However the dark side is strong Smile and this Mod seems to be popular with users of those small devices.

Therefore I'm working on including a "Minimum Spec Toggle" which will automatically set a few other settings. Users will still be able to "override" this setting if they wish.

So I'm now looking for ideas from users for stuff that doesn't work to well on small devices eg the spinning busy graphic.

As a starting point I take it that these devices prefer a static common background - How far should this go into media views eg no fanart.
If the busy icon makes a difference what does spinning CD's do ?
I've read scrolling text is not good - so do we set the movie plots to tag line & turn off auto scrolling

As I don't have one of these devices this idea is only going to become as good as you guys will allow it to - So if you think you'll use the setting - start suggesting stuff.


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - jmh2002 - 2013-08-04

The biggest performance issue I have come across is Backgrounds, FanArt, and Thumbnail or Poster views with a large library (maybe other Banner type views too, I didnt try them)

So:

- I run a single Background
- I have FanArt switched off
- I only use Thumbnail view for the odd small list (Thumbnail or Poster view on my Movie or Music Library will actually crash my iPad1, and can crash my aTV too with fast scrolling - so I mainly use List View, and then Media Info 3 when inside a TV Show)

You can see all my other settings in the Gallery. I have a lot of things switched off Smile

EDIT: I have Plot Scrolling turned on (mainly used in TV Shows Media Info 3 - it doesnt seem to cause a big problem for me.
EDIT2: I also have "Extract thumbnail and video information" turned off. This really seemed to help as far as Library browsing was concerned (even though all my files already have metadata, art, etc.


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - Mudislander - 2013-08-04

Okay so hit a problem with above post within 15 minutes Big Grin it's going to be easier code wise that users cannot adjust certain settings while "Min Spec" is enabled - Guys wishing to change those settings will have to disable "Min Spec" first.

So now the question is - the settings that can't be adjusted while "Min Spec" is enabled, Do you hide them completely in skin settings or "grey them out" as unselectable ?

@jmh2002 - Okay have done "Global Background" and agree with fanart. Views I think maybe leave them as is for the moment & revisit down the road.

BTW - you're as sad as I am living on this forum Big Grin


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - jmh2002 - 2013-08-04

Just trying to helpful while I can Smile At some stage in the future other committments will mean I wont be around here much...

And lets face it, without a skin that fits a users needs, the usefulness of xbmc goes way down, so its a big priority i think.

Ive been using some type of media centre since the 'myhtpc' software was launched early 2000 and something (thereafter becoming Meedio, then Meedios)


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - Mudislander - 2013-08-04

(2013-08-03, 16:27)jmh2002 Wrote: Oh, PS: Can you add Music Genres, Recently Added Albums, and Recently Played Albums to the list of available Menu Items when you get a chance please ? THANK YOU Smile

Done + Top 100 Songs & Compilations


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - jmh2002 - 2013-08-04

(2013-08-04, 12:35)Mudislander Wrote: Done + Top 100 Songs & Compilations

Nice, thank you Smile I finally switched over my music setup to xbmc yesterday, so Im just coming across a few of these things.


RE: Confluence Customizable Mod - thebearnecessit - 2013-08-04

(2013-08-04, 09:18)Mudislander Wrote: Another post about Min Spec Machines just to keep it in the public eye.

Originally with Mod was done to bring back some of the functionality that Confluence lost due to these machines becoming popular and was intended for "Fat boy Machines". However the dark side is strong Smile and this Mod seems to be popular with users of those small devices.

Therefore I'm working on including a "Minimum Spec Toggle" which will automatically set a few other settings. Users will still be able to "override" this setting if they wish.

So I'm now looking for ideas from users for stuff that doesn't work to well on small devices eg the spinning busy graphic.

As a starting point I take it that these devices prefer a static common background - How far should this go into media views eg no fanart.
If the busy icon makes a difference what does spinning CD's do ?
I've read scrolling text is not good - so do we set the movie plots to tag line & turn off auto scrolling

As I don't have one of these devices this idea is only going to become as good as you guys will allow it to - So if you think you'll use the setting - start suggesting stuff.

On my android boxes here's my thoughts:

no spinning busy icon
no spinning cd - (it spins but just stutters all the time so doesnt look good anyway)
no fanart
i have multiple global backgrounds and it seems fine with that (perhaps just make the time spent on each background user-selectable ie change background every 2 mins, 10 mins or 60 mins)
no rss
movie tag line is better
no auto-scrolling text
also the trailer-within-the-info-screen doesn't work properly on my android boxes either, so i vote to disable that too.
i turn off the intro movie personally even though i wish i didn't have to it just doesn't quite work smoothly.
i also hide the raindrop effect
and take the weather off the home screen
i keep the "next 5 songs scroller"


RE: CCM - Confluence Customizable Mod - Mudislander - 2013-08-04

Cool, What 've done so far - You guys can disagree Smile

Spinning busy icon turned off & you can't turn it on while "Min Spec" is in effect
Weather on top left is turned off & also can't change - Both these were just easier to code this way.
Raindrop effect does not load while "Min Spec" selected

The rest are disabled as a group when you toggle the "Min Spec" switch, but can be individually re-enabled at users discretion

Global background enabled over individual backgrounds
Short Media Plots enabled
FanArt Hidden
Music Background while playing and not on Music Viz Screen hidden
Home info stats bar hidden (The movie count watched unwatched etc)
Spinning CDs on Music Viz hidden
Background in Music Viz set to default
Next 5 songs scroll is disabled
XBMC Intro Movie is disabled

Other Points

The scrolling movie plot is disabled anyway & you have to select it.
It's better to turn off RSS feed, not hide it with skin settings

I'd like to go a bit deeper & disable some of the animations in the MOD, but will need guidance on where there's a problem.

I'll look at changing the time for random backgrounds, might not be able to make it user selecable though.
the trailer button can be disabled no problem, must remember that one as others want a button in the Movie views.

Another question with widgets, does the playlist widgets eg the default Unwatched movies hammer your boxes when the script runs - should that script be disabled

I'm also looking for ways to auto detect low powered machines, Android is easy it's got an Android system but the little Pi machines I'm not sure about.


RE: CCM - Confluence Customizable Mod - thebearnecessit - 2013-08-04

great stuff

how can we tell if the playlist widgets are hammering the box?


RE: CCM - Confluence Customizable Mod - jmh2002 - 2013-08-04

Using aTV and iPad1 I dont find the widgets too much of a performance hit (using, Recents Movies, Recent TV Shows, Recent Music, & Favourites). Im sure its faster with them off, but for me I think its a necessary feature so I dont think I would turn it off.

This might be a slightly dumb question, but what is the actual difference between Service.Skin.Widgets, and the built in Recents Widget? Just the fact that Service.Skin.Widgets is configurable?

Also:

- Does Playlist Widget Script just provide the same type of functionality (ie: a Recent/Random Widget) but for any Playlist Home Menu item that its used on?

- Now that I have Music set up, Suggested and Random Album Widget doesnt seem to work for me (Recent does) NB: MySQL Library. Do I need to configure something?

- Now that I have Music set up, do I need to configure "Music Physical Folder, Music Path". What does it do?

- How does "Enable Album Art Background Wall" work? Should it generate a new Wall every time I go into FullScreen? For me its always the same images, and since I just imported the Library, its all made up of the same 10 Albums (starting with letters X, Y, Z), when there are actually hundreds of Albums in the Library.

- If I am trying to save processor by not using a Visualisation (xbmc visualisations look like something from 1975 anyway...) why cant I just have a 'big' CoverArt in Music FullScreen? Or didnt Eden (or your Eden Skin) display the big red xbmc logo (like is used for the Login Screen)? I cant remember, didnt it used to move around the screen? Huh

EDIT: Im looking now at how I can have an AlbumArt or FanArt ScreenSaver when playing Music Smile


RE: CCM - Confluence Customizable Mod - Starstream - 2013-08-04

(2013-08-04, 15:45)Mudislander Wrote: I'm also looking for ways to auto detect low powered machines, Android is easy it's got an Android system but the little Pi machines I'm not sure about.

Zero clue if it's at all possible but if you could filter by GPU type that could be a better indicator, XBMC displays this in the system information section.

The R-Pi uses an uncommon Broadcom GPU so it would be pretty easy to filter by that, a huge amount of the AndroidTV set top boxes use the Arm Mali 400 GPU (varying from 1-4 cores) so tagging that shouldn't be a problem either. You'd cover the bulk of devices with just those two entries.

Plus some of the low end boxes don't always use Android, the Pivos XIOS and The Little Black Box both use linux/xbmc firmwares. There are higher performance CPU/GPU's in Android hardware land it's just they haven't yet worked their way down to the AndroidTV box level yet except in rare cases like the Ouya. Oh and if by some miracle XBMC works it's way to the official GoogleTV platform most of those use the very low performance Vivante GC1000 GPU which is another one to flag.

This is what the XIOS lists under video in linux/xbmc firmware
Code:
GPU: Mali-400 MP