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RE: WMC as the backend - released - Moe Manley - 2013-10-03
(2013-10-03, 19:01)LehighBri Wrote: I just started to use this on my windows PC and love it. I also have a raspberry pi running OpenELEC but I see a mention of an addon for RaspBMC.
Is there a client addon that is compatible with OpenELEC? Is it the x86 Linux download? Or is OpenELEC not supported for whatever reason?
You have to switch over to RASPBMC. If you do the install where it downloads the latest version, you get WMC pvr with it. I was running OPENELEC with the tv:
erver on two raspberry pi's. I switched one and then the other because the performance is much better with the WMC as the backend. If you don't want to get rid of OPENELEC, just get a new SD card.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-03
(2013-10-03, 15:39)xnappo Wrote: This is somewhat off-topic, but with this great new ability it makes the playing of CCI protected content without the full WMC even more attractive.
Has anyone ever found a way to launch just the player portion of WMC so that it is viable as an external player? I know you can launch full WMC, but even with the splash disabled it is a slow and clunky solution.
xnappo
As far as I know, there is no way to do this. Windows Media Player is probably the closest you are going to get to just the player part of WMC.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - w84no1 - 2013-10-03
So, you could possibly get copy protected recordings to play by adding this to your playercorefactory.xml, as long as they are on the same machine.
Code:
<playercorefactory>
<players>
<player name="WMV" type="ExternalPlayer">
<filename>C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Media Player\wmplayer.exe</filename>
<args>"{1}"</args>
<hidexbmc>false</hidexbmc>
<hideconsole>false</hideconsole>
<warpcursor>none</warpcursor>
</player>
</players>
<rules action="prepend">
<rule name="PlayWTV" filetype="wtv" player="WMV"/>
</rules>
</playercorefactory>Krusty, you said that at one time you were using the wtv file instead of remuxing into a .ts file. Could you have a setting on the server to use the wtv again so it would get passed to the external player? Just thinking out loud. I don't have a cable card, but I like to try and fix things
It wouldn't help network clients, though.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-03
(2013-10-03, 20:55)w84no1 Wrote: Krusty, you said that at one time you were using the wtv file instead of remuxing into a .ts file. Could you have a setting on the server to use the wtv again so it would get passed to the external player? Just thinking out loud. I don't have a cable card, but I like to try and fix things
I assume you mean for live-tv. I have thought about generating wtv for drm'd live-tv streams and using external players to play the content, and doing the same if the user wants to play a drm'd recorded tv file too. I was going to do it by launching wmc (not wmp) using my context sensitive launcher for wmc (quickwmc), but I suppose it could be done with wmp too. But yeah, it won't work for networked clients (although it might kind of work for remote windows clients).
I want to eventually right a channel editor for the server, and I thought one of the settings that could be there would be to use wmc for playback on certain channels.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - ScAndal - 2013-10-03
wow this is super cool and could be the answer to my problems. Looking forward to playing with it.
I only care about live TV (not pvr) from my linux openelec clients.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - xnappo - 2013-10-03
(2013-10-03, 20:33)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-10-03, 15:39)xnappo Wrote: This is somewhat off-topic, but with this great new ability it makes the playing of CCI protected content without the full WMC even more attractive.
Has anyone ever found a way to launch just the player portion of WMC so that it is viable as an external player? I know you can launch full WMC, but even with the splash disabled it is a slow and clunky solution.
xnappo
As far as I know, there is no way to do this. Windows Media Player is probably the closest you are going to get to just the player part of WMC.
Yep - but WMP won't play CCI/Playready protected files as far as I can tell. What is this 'quickwmc' you speak of?
xnappo
RE: WMC as the backend - released - w84no1 - 2013-10-03
I am getting ready write on my blog how my whole home DVR is setup and thanks to you (Krusty) I started with WMC, switched to NextPVR, MP, and now back to WMC.
I have a Windows 7 machine in the basement running WMC, Media Browser Server, DVBLink Connect! Server, and ServerWMC. It has 2 ATSC tuners(OTA) and 2 Hauppauge HD-PVRs connected to DirecTV. I have 6 tablets/smartphones (iOS and Android), 4 RaspberryPIs, an Xbox 360, 3 Windows 7 PCs, and an Ouya.
I have Live TV working on all the devices in some form or another.
- Raspberry PIs (XBMC with wmc pvr client)
- Xbox 360 (WMC)
- Android (XBMC with dvblink pvr client) waiting on wmc android client
- Windows (Both WMC or XBMC with wmc pvr)
The post will have all the details, will post the link when I finish it.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-03
(2013-10-03, 22:16)xnappo Wrote: What is this 'quickwmc' you speak of?
xnappo
I don't want to derail this thread from discussing the pvr only, but a guy named Dark_Slayer did a good write-up on it recently, here:
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1492094/ultimate-wmc-integration-with-xbmc
(2013-10-03, 22:59)w84no1 Wrote: I am getting ready write on my blog how my whole home DVR is setup and thanks to you (Krusty) I started with WMC, switched to NextPVR, MP, and now back to WMC.
I have a Windows 7 machine in the basement running WMC, Media Browser Server, DVBLink Connect! Server, and ServerWMC. It has 2 ATSC tuners(OTA) and 2 Hauppauge HD-PVRs connected to DirecTV. I have 6 tablets/smartphones (iOS and Android), 4 RaspberryPIs, an Xbox 360, 3 Windows 7 PCs, and an Ouya.
I have Live TV working on all the devices in some form or another.
- Raspberry PIs (XBMC with wmc pvr client)
- Xbox 360 (WMC)
- Android (XBMC with dvblink pvr client) waiting on wmc android client
- Windows (Both WMC or XBMC with wmc pvr)
The post will have all the details, will post the link when I finish it.
Wow, what a collection. Looking forward to the blog.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-04
Hi everyone,
There is a new version of the server up (1075). It fixes the live-tv crash bugs that TechLife found yesterday. Thanks to him for providing the debug files and to Hoopsdavis for testing it.
--kr
RE: WMC as the backend - released - bry - 2013-10-04
Krustyreturns do you think you will combine the two projects at a later time?
RE: WMC as the backend - released - TechLife - 2013-10-04
(2013-10-04, 00:16)krustyreturns Wrote: Hi everyone,
There is a new version of the server up (1075). It fixes the live-tv crash bugs that TechLife found yesterday. Thanks to him for providing the debug files and to Hoopsdavis for testing it.
--kr
Awesome, thanks for the quick fix. Always happy to help. I'll be giving it a run tonight for football!
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-04
(2013-10-04, 00:46)bry- Wrote: Krustyreturns do you think you will combine the two projects at a later time?
Yes I plan on doing it, or helping someone else implement it. Its only a solution for windows clients of course, but so is watching drm'd broadcasts on computers.
There are some tech aspects in it that I am not sure about, but I don't think any are show stoppers. The main one is launching a specific channel in wmc when it starts, but I think I may have a way to do that now, how well it works remains to be seen.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - scott967 - 2013-10-04
(2013-10-03, 04:25)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-10-03, 02:37)scott967 Wrote: LiveTV not working (for me) in Gotham A7.
I installed the pvr.wmc client 1011 on a remote Win 7 Gotham A7 build. Setup live TV in the settings and got the client working (EPG, channel listing, recordings, timers all working). But when a liveTV channel is selected there is a pause/wait, then nothing. Excerpt from XBMC debug log:
so it seems the server did what it should have. I notice that the client dll in the Gotham version 0.2.0 is different from the Frodo 0.1.8.
scott s.
.
You are right about the error, it looks like the client doesn't have access to the shared folder. This folder is shared right? I can't tell the server version from the piece of the log you posted. Is it the newest one?
Also, did you test live-tv with this gotham client on the server machine?
The client version being different is something scarecrow did for the gotham build (he did the gotham code), we didn't sync up about what to do with version numbers between the two code sets.
I will do some checking but on the same client machine I have Frodo 12.2 installed and everything is working. The server is running 1.072 (will upgrade probably tomorrow). This was my first attempt to get livetv working in Gotham, so there might be some configuration issues.
scott s.
.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - wally007 - 2013-10-04
I'm sorry if I'm asking questions that has been asked before but I did read both Wiki pages (Server/Client), plus few pages of this thread and did not see any information about how recording conflicts are handled.
Is there any conflict management ? Say I have two tuners and attempt to schedule 3rd programme to be recorded... what happens ? Am i alerted in any way ?
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-04
(2013-10-04, 10:56)wally007 Wrote: I'm sorry if I'm asking questions that has been asked before but I did read both Wiki pages (Server/Client), plus few pages of this thread and did not see any information about how recording conflicts are handled.
Is there any conflict management ? Say I have two tuners and attempt to schedule 3rd programme to be recorded... what happens ? Am i alerted in any way ?
This software uses wmc's scheduler, which is the same service wmc uses, so conflicts between recordings work the same way as wmc. For instance, in your example, when the third request is made wmc will try to resolve the conflict by finding an alternate air time - possible even on a different channel - if it can't resolve it, it will keep the third recording scheduled but report that it won't record, and yes xbmc will take this info and report the conflict to you in xbmc. You can then go to xbmc's timer window and resolve the conflict manually be deleting a recording (timer).