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RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-18
Krusty, have you come up with a way to have faster channel changing? Takes me at the most 11 - 12 seconds. At the least 8
RE: WMC as the backend - released - soulshadow - 2013-08-18
Hi, Please can some one help with this problem I have wmc installed and working, However when I try to run serverWMC it starts up then opens for a second then closes down.
Has anybody else had this problem
Any help would be grateful
Ian
RE: WMC as the backend - released - ascagnel - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-15, 21:16)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-15, 19:44)sub3 Wrote:(2013-08-15, 19:06)indy5 Wrote: I have a question regarding encrypted and copy-once channels. Do these work using this solution? I am on TWC and all is marked copy-once and some of my channels work, but not many so far.No, unfortunately it's limited to copy-freely channels, the same as the other backend options.
What happens when you try to play a copy-once wtv file with xbmc?
Depending on the video, it either is a black screen with a few flickering boxes along the top or the first rendered image in the stream with a few flickering boxes along the top. Here's an imgur album of what it looks like when tuning one of those channels.
http://imgur.com/a/Vt0Dp
I'm noticing that watching live TV pegs all 4 cores at 100%, which is something that does not happen in WMC. Any ideas on what might be causing that? Is it the live remuxing?
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 04:51)hoopsdavis Wrote: Krusty, have you come up with a way to have faster channel changing? Takes me at the most 11 - 12 seconds. At the least 8
No, its something I plan on working on, but I am trying to get the more serious bugs sorted out first. And you know, life and stuff.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 18:14)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-18, 04:51)hoopsdavis Wrote: Krusty, have you come up with a way to have faster channel changing? Takes me at the most 11 - 12 seconds. At the least 8
No, its something I plan on working on, but I am trying to get the more serious bugs sorted out first. And you know, life and stuff.
Yes, I understand. Thanks for the response. But again, thanks very much for putting this together.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 17:27)ascagnel Wrote:(2013-08-15, 21:16)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-15, 19:44)sub3 Wrote: No, unfortunately it's limited to copy-freely channels, the same as the other backend options.
What happens when you try to play a copy-once wtv file with xbmc?
Depending on the video, it either is a black screen with a few flickering boxes along the top or the first rendered image in the stream with a few flickering boxes along the top. Here's an imgur album of what it looks like when tuning one of those channels.
http://imgur.com/a/Vt0Dp
I'm noticing that watching live TV pegs all 4 cores at 100%, which is something that does not happen in WMC. Any ideas on what might be causing that? Is it the live remuxing?
Thanks for the info.
I'm not sure how it could top out all four cores, at least it doesn't do that on my systems. I do remux on the fly, but that amounts to rearranging data packets it doesn't burden the system much that I can see. It would be interesting to hear if other people are seeing the same thing.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - asm495 - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 04:45)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-17, 21:24)asm495 Wrote:(2013-08-17, 18:55)asm495 Wrote: Actually, you're right. The videos stutter in XBMC. They play fine in VLC. I'll try and get hold of a sample that doesn't work when switching channels.
I can't reproduce the error when switching channels now. However, both TS and WTV file formats are being created when streaming.
I got more time to spend on this stuttering problem today, and I was surprised to see that the wtv file stutters in xbmc, just like the ts file. Is that the same for you too?
Yes, both stutter.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 16:05)soulshadow Wrote: Hi, Please can some one help with this problem I have wmc installed and working, However when I try to run serverWMC it starts up then opens for a second then closes down.
Has anybody else had this problem
Any help would be grateful
Ian
Oops, it should post an error message if for some reason it can't start. And this points out a major problem with error reporting, because if the app doesn't start click-once deployment makes it very hard to find the log file. I'll try to put up a fix for this today, so we can at least find out what is going on.
(2013-08-18, 18:48)asm495 Wrote:(2013-08-18, 04:45)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-17, 21:24)asm495 Wrote: I can't reproduce the error when switching channels now. However, both TS and WTV file formats are being created when streaming.
I got more time to spend on this stuttering problem today, and I was surprised to see that the wtv file stutters in xbmc, just like the ts file. Is that the same for you too?
Yes, both stutter.
Yeah that's a problem, because it says that its an issue with xbmc/ffmpeg and this particular type of wtv. There will probably be nothing I can do about it just playing with the pvr code, but there are still a few things I want to look at anyway. I don't know if there is a place to submit video files that don't play correctly to the people who work on this, but this would be a good submission candidate. Sorry I won't pass the wife hurdle on this one.
As for the channel switching crash, I have found on the web a wtv clip that triggers it so I have something to work with now if you want to stop looking.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - soulshadow - 2013-08-18
Hi thank you for your help, So shall I wait for a fix on error log. I have tried reinstalling ServiceWMC but still get same problem
Cheers
Ian
RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-18
Krusty, I continue to get "Windows Media Center PVR : Connection Lost" within xbmc. Any ideas?
pvr has been enable, disable and re-enabled again. serverwmc has been uninstalled and re-installed again.
No luck
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 20:01)hoopsdavis Wrote: Krusty, I continue to get "Windows Media Center PVR : Connection Lost" within xbmc. Any ideas?
pvr has been enable, disable and re-enabled again. serverwmc has been uninstalled and re-installed again.
No luck
So the server and client never connect? Or they connect but then the connection gets lost after a while?
RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 20:45)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-18, 20:01)hoopsdavis Wrote: Krusty, I continue to get "Windows Media Center PVR : Connection Lost" within xbmc. Any ideas?
pvr has been enable, disable and re-enabled again. serverwmc has been uninstalled and re-installed again.
No luck
So the server and client never connect? Or they connect but then the connection gets lost after a while?
They connect but immediately the client lost connection. I worked it out. there was a channel I added that must have had issue, after deleting the channel everything worked.
I having issues adding some channels.
RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-08-18
(2013-08-18, 19:44)soulshadow Wrote: Hi thank you for your help, So shall I wait for a fix on error log. I have tried reinstalling ServiceWMC but still get same problem
Cheers
Ian
Yeah so I put a new version of the server up (build 1044). Its kind of quick and dirty, but now when it shuts down it should copy the log file to the start menu > programs > ServerWMC directory. Send me this log file after it fails.
(2013-08-18, 21:18)hoopsdavis Wrote:(2013-08-18, 20:45)krustyreturns Wrote:(2013-08-18, 20:01)hoopsdavis Wrote: Krusty, I continue to get "Windows Media Center PVR : Connection Lost" within xbmc. Any ideas?
pvr has been enable, disable and re-enabled again. serverwmc has been uninstalled and re-installed again.
No luck
So the server and client never connect? Or they connect but then the connection gets lost after a while?
They connect but immediately the client lost connection. I worked it out. there was a channel I added that must have had issue, after deleting the channel everything worked.
I having issues adding some channels.
I don't understand how adding a channel can cause connection issues, unless it was somehow causing the server to crash. What exactly are you doing when adding channels? I said in earlier post that the way to add channels to the server is by setting them up in wmc, at least for now. Is that how you are doing it?
RE: WMC as the backend - released - soulshadow - 2013-08-19
Hi thank you for your reply and help.
I have updated and tried the new version serveWMC 1044. It did the same as before opened then after a second closed though like you said it has now created a log file.
I have attached the log file in hope that you can help me figure out how to get it working
ServerWMC started at 18/08/2013 23:59:43
Assembly version: 1.0.0.7
Config file version: 9
Click-once deployment: True
Deployment version: 0.1.0.44
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 64-bit
OS Version: 6.1.7601.65536
Processor: AMD Phenom™ FX-5000 Quad-Core Processor
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4200
Server MachineName: VENTOM
Local recording path: C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\
EPG loading...
EPG> 1. opening store2
EPG> 1b. TV store opened
Tuner Devices and TuningSpaces found:
0 Content Recorder HardwareBaseId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}
HardwareId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}01
(0) Device name: EyeTV Diversity Digital Tuner (Dev1 Path0), TuningSpace: DVB-T
1 Content Recorder HardwareBaseId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}
HardwareId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}02
(0) Device name: EyeTV Diversity Digital Tuner (Dev1 Path1), TuningSpace: DVB-T
Epg> Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
OnClosing> closing any running streams
OnClosing> shutting down client communication pipe
OnClosing> stopping maintenance timer
OnClosing> shutting down RecServce/EPG
CloseTraceLog: -- exited normally
Regards Ian
RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-08-19
(2013-08-19, 01:06)soulshadow Wrote: Hi thank you for your reply and help.
I have updated and tried the new version serveWMC 1044. It did the same as before opened then after a second closed though like you said it has now created a log file.
I have attached the log file in hope that you can help me figure out how to get it working
ServerWMC started at 18/08/2013 23:59:43
Assembly version: 1.0.0.7
Config file version: 9
Click-once deployment: True
Deployment version: 0.1.0.44
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 64-bit
OS Version: 6.1.7601.65536
Processor: AMD Phenom™ FX-5000 Quad-Core Processor
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 4200
Server MachineName: VENTOM
Local recording path: C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\
EPG loading...
EPG> 1. opening store2
EPG> 1b. TV store opened
Tuner Devices and TuningSpaces found:
0 Content Recorder HardwareBaseId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}
HardwareId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}01
(0) Device name: EyeTV Diversity Digital Tuner (Dev1 Path0), TuningSpace: DVB-T
1 Content Recorder HardwareBaseId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}
HardwareId: {cfa68961-61d3-51cb-b048-1ecc6d5ab8e7}02
(0) Device name: EyeTV Diversity Digital Tuner (Dev1 Path1), TuningSpace: DVB-T
Epg> Value cannot be null.
Parameter name: key
OnClosing> closing any running streams
OnClosing> shutting down client communication pipe
OnClosing> stopping maintenance timer
OnClosing> shutting down RecServce/EPG
CloseTraceLog: -- exited normally
Regards Ian
Before trying the WMC as a backend, which backend did you use. I had this issue because I was using the Mediaportal tvServer, after disabling the Mediaportal tvServer I was ok.