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RE: WMC as the backend - released - TheImmortal - 2013-10-11

Where does XBMC get the thumbnail it displays on the Recordings screen? On my system it is in VERY low resolution.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - 1358 - 2013-10-11

Update: After using a wired network connection tha addon works really good on a RPi with OpenELEC. It would be nice if you could release it not only bundled with Raspbmc.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-11

(2013-10-11, 15:02)TheImmortal Wrote: Where does XBMC get the thumbnail it displays on the Recordings screen? On my system it is in VERY low resolution.

It pulls them from some website that I assume ms maintains. Here is an example from my devel pc:
http://images.windowsmedia.com/tvcards/org/8740_19.jpg

Remember these are meant to be displayed in wmc, so they only need to be big enough for what wmc requires.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - Dilligaf - 2013-10-11

(2013-10-11, 16:35)1358 Wrote: Update: After using a wired network connection tha addon works really good on a RPi with OpenELEC. It would be nice if you could release it not only bundled with Raspbmc.
As stated earlier PVR add ons are the responsibility of the distro builder when it comes to Raspberry Pi, Ouya etc. there is no official repo for these devices. The reason it's included in Raspbmc is someone (me) convinced the builder (Sam) to include it. If you want this add on included in your distro of choice you need to convince the builder to include it. Official xbmc pvr add ons are built automatically, pre release/testing add ons need to be added by the builder. Just because pulling it from one distro and adding it to another works now does not mean it will continue to work with later releases.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - 1358 - 2013-10-11

Does this mean that the Raspbmc version is build by the Raspbmc Team? If so I did not say anything.. Smile


RE: WMC as the backend - released - Dilligaf - 2013-10-11

(2013-10-11, 17:22)1358 Wrote: Does this mean that the Raspbmc version is build by the Raspbmc Team? If so I did not say anything.. Smile

I think that's what I just said Smile


RE: WMC as the backend - released - solidstinch - 2013-10-12

Does anyone else have the issue with the RaspBMC not showing channel number the same as the WMC backend?


RE: WMC as the backend - released - t-magnus - 2013-10-12

(2013-10-12, 02:59)solidstinch Wrote: Does anyone else have the issue with the RaspBMC not showing channel number the same as the WMC backend?

There is a option in the LiveTV settings to use backend channel numbers.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - mini__me - 2013-10-12

Since upgrading the server to 1077 I'm unable to stream live or recorded TV, I can see the wtv and ts file created in the temp directory but it never starts.

Will look into it more later, rolling back to 1055 makes everything work again, and going forward stops again.

Will post logs once I've got them.

Cheers

mini


RE: WMC as the backend - released - User 137418 - 2013-10-12

Trying to post a log from pastebin for the first time, so I hope this works... I am pasting the whole thing because the first line has info about the server running, but the issue arose 10/12/2013 at 9:34am, so you can skip down to that part to look for the issue.

More issues with my audio streams starting in SAP vs ENG. HTPC running server 1077. Watching live TV on my thinkpad running client 1012.

Started watching channel 3.1 (CBS), everything good. I can see two audio channels, both ENG. Switch to channel 6.1 (ABC), plays with no sound, I can see two audio channels, SAP and ENG, SAP listed first. I suspect no sound because it wasn't actually available, I think with the show does actually support SAP, it plays in SAP.

I hit "L" to get the sound/subtitle menu and see that the Castilian audio is selected. Manually switch the audio to ENG and it plays in ENG.

Change to 10.1 (NBC), see both audio streams, ENG listed first, it plays in ENG. Switch back to 6.1 (ABC) and it plays in ENG.

Then the HTPC fell asleep (I haven't configured Advanced WOL to keep it awake while watching on remote clients yet), which is why the log abruptly stops.

Please let me know if you need any additional details.

Thanks for all the great work.

<script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=nnTaxN71"></script> (well that didn't work)
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nnTaxN71 (this "raw" link seems to work)


RE: WMC as the backend - released - TechLife - 2013-10-12

I ignored this issue the first couple times but it seems to be a recurring theme so I thought I'd bring it up. Everything will be going along fine for a few days and then the HTPC will wake with an error in Server.WMC. XBMC is set to auto start, can't connect to ServerWMC and disables the add-on. Usually, I can close XBMC, restart Server.WMC, load XBMC, re-enable the pvr.wmc and I'm back to good for a few more days.

ServerWMC log is here: http://pastebin.com/et1PCbDe

Just wanted to throw it out there FWIW. I'll try to grab some additional information next time it happens.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - Charles R - 2013-10-12

I have been trying out the server/client with OpenELEC and I'm very impressed. There are a couple of minor things I wouldn't mind seeing such as the ability to view series recordings grouped instead of each episode listed individually. However the only issue stopping me from replacing a classic WMC extender is semi-live TV.

A very large portion of what I watch is commercial delayed. Such as I'll start viewing a 2 hour show 40 minutes in and skip commercials along the way catching up to live TV by the end of the show. I understand some of the technical issues involved with viewing active recordings which seriously restrict the available options. A few streamers I have tried in the past have captured the recorded file as it was the moment playback started and only played until you reached the end of the file (what was recorded when you started). Certainly not ideal however you could skip forward and back along with all of the playback features of a recording. I believe WMC itself if connected to another WMC will let you do this as well.

Let's say you start 40 minutes into a show. You can view the 40 minutes the same as any recording. Once you hit 40 minutes it's over and you have to restart the show to view what was recorded while you were watching the first 40 minutes. Certainly not ideal but better than being without the ability to skip commercials without virtually any of the trick play features. I'm sure others would prefer the current method so having an option would be nice.

Which leads me to Stream format WTV or TS? I can't select WTV and I'm wondering if this is some what related? A feature to be implemented down the road and if so how? Again, I understand it's a technical nightmare. Unfortunately it's an area I spend most of my time in and any help would be great. Overall the server and client are very well implemented and for recordings it's a grand slam... very impressive.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-12

(2013-10-12, 14:54)mini__me Wrote: Since upgrading the server to 1077 I'm unable to stream live or recorded TV, I can see the wtv and ts file created in the temp directory but it never starts.

Will look into it more later, rolling back to 1055 makes everything work again, and going forward stops again.

Will post logs once I've got them.

Cheers

mini

weird. not being able to start live tv and recorded tv is almost always a remote client problem and the network path not being set up correctly. Check credentials if this is a non-windows client. If you already had credentials setup xbmc, then turn off credentials in the new server version.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-12

(2013-10-12, 16:30)milkman dan Wrote: Trying to post a log from pastebin for the first time, so I hope this works... I am pasting the whole thing because the first line has info about the server running, but the issue arose 10/12/2013 at 9:34am, so you can skip down to that part to look for the issue.

More issues with my audio streams starting in SAP vs ENG. HTPC running server 1077. Watching live TV on my thinkpad running client 1012.

Started watching channel 3.1 (CBS), everything good. I can see two audio channels, both ENG. Switch to channel 6.1 (ABC), plays with no sound, I can see two audio channels, SAP and ENG, SAP listed first. I suspect no sound because it wasn't actually available, I think with the show does actually support SAP, it plays in SAP.

I hit "L" to get the sound/subtitle menu and see that the Castilian audio is selected. Manually switch the audio to ENG and it plays in ENG.

Change to 10.1 (NBC), see both audio streams, ENG listed first, it plays in ENG. Switch back to 6.1 (ABC) and it plays in ENG.

Then the HTPC fell asleep (I haven't configured Advanced WOL to keep it awake while watching on remote clients yet), which is why the log abruptly stops.

Please let me know if you need any additional details.

Thanks for all the great work.

<script src="http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=nnTaxN71"></script> (well that didn't work)
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nnTaxN71 (this "raw" link seems to work)

When you are watching one of these stations where the wrong audio is selected, while it is playing, copy the wtv file for me (or temporarily switch off 'delete temp files'). Place it here:
C:\Users\Victor\Google Drive\wtv clips
and let me know its there.

I would like to get these audio problems nailed down (especially since I thought I already had). I could just make it so that there is an option in the server to only grab English or the like, but I would really not like to have to do that. I will look at your log, but I will probably need a file too.

Another interesting thing is that the server went to sleep while playing a stream. I thouight this couldn't happen, because windows detects if a file is open by a remote client and won't go to sleep - this is the way it works for me anyway. I know how to stop windows from sleeping from code and I thought about making it so that if a stream is open the server is locked out of sleep. I wonder if this is because its a non-windows client? Didn't think that would make a difference. Anyone else experiencing this sleep problem?


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-10-12

(2013-10-12, 17:21)TechLife Wrote: I ignored this issue the first couple times but it seems to be a recurring theme so I thought I'd bring it up. Everything will be going along fine for a few days and then the HTPC will wake with an error in Server.WMC. XBMC is set to auto start, can't connect to ServerWMC and disables the add-on. Usually, I can close XBMC, restart Server.WMC, load XBMC, re-enable the pvr.wmc and I'm back to good for a few more days.

ServerWMC log is here: http://pastebin.com/et1PCbDe

Just wanted to throw it out there FWIW. I'll try to grab some additional information next time it happens.

When you say the htpc wakes with an error, you man that the htpc boots, auto starts the server, and the server fails - right? The log says your tuner is not available, and that's why it is not starting. So I also want to know: how do you get it to start after this error? Do you just restart the server? Does that usually work?

I wonder if I never see this because my server is always on (on my family server - not devel). Maybe its possible that your server is crashing because the recservice has not had time to init the tuner after boot. If so, I could build in a delay and have it try again. Let me know.

Lastly, I don't know why xbmc disables the addon when it detects the server is not up. It never does that for me, it just complains the server is not up until I start the server. Did you change a setting in xbmc?