RE: Arctic Horizon - jurialmunkey - 2020-04-18
(2020-04-18, 02:40)lightsout Wrote: (2020-04-18, 02:04)FXB78 Wrote: With the Up-Next popup if I press the Up Arrow the button loses focus and displays half the button as focused but a button press doesn't register. In AZ2 there is no such behaviour, it looks like a bit of a focus glitch in AH:
Can you please link me to this add-on? I was trying to find something that would do that like Emby does, also can it show the next unwatched and not just the next show?
https://kodi.wiki/view/Add-on:Up_Next
It's available in Kodi repo.
RE: Arctic Horizon - hacky4real - 2020-04-18
Hi jurialmunkey, weather widget doesn't auto fit in widows unless you press the left key.
also would it be possible to display media release date in Artic Mirage SC instead of todays date. Thanks
RE: Arctic Horizon - ChachiKeSi - 2020-04-18
Can I select a distinct fullscreen widget for each home item? For examples, "random tv shows" widget for "tv show" item and "random movies" widget for "movies" item.
RE: Arctic Horizon - FXB78 - 2020-04-18
(2020-04-18, 07:13)jurialmunkey Wrote: (2020-04-18, 02:04)FXB78 Wrote: With the Up-Next popup if I press the Up Arrow the button loses focus and displays half the button as focused but a button press doesn't register. In AZ2 there is no such behaviour, it looks like a bit of a focus glitch in AH:
Should be fixed now (v0.2.10) Can confirm Up Next is working now on 0.2.10, thanks!
RE: Arctic Horizon - jurialmunkey - 2020-04-18
(2020-04-18, 13:04)ChachiKeSi Wrote: Can I select a distinct fullscreen widget for each home item? For examples, "random tv shows" widget for "tv show" item and "random movies" widget for "movies" item.
Not currently - but it is planned.
RE: Arctic Horizon - TheGame1986 - 2020-04-18
Fantastic skin, Jurialmunkey, as always.
I have a request, would it be possible for episode images to fallback to the TV show fanart if the episode has no image?
Thanks for the hard work! Have a great weekend.
EDIT: I did this for myself in Aura by loading the fanart behind the episode image, but I don't know how feasible that is widespread from system to system?
RE: Arctic Horizon - myghalloween - 2020-04-18
erase
RE: Arctic Horizon - myghalloween - 2020-04-19
(2020-03-29, 02:16)jurialmunkey Wrote: (2020-03-28, 21:19)myghalloween Wrote: Hi @jurialmunkey
There are a lot of great ideas in AH!
Like many, I find that it lacks additional views (at least the most useful) but I respect your idea and it may take time to adapt. The idea of standardizing everything is really appreciable, it is often what is lacking in others (in general it is confined to film and series, and for the rest you have to do as you can).
I just used it a bit to get an idea and here are some ideas that might interest you:
- Respecting your idea of simplifying to get to the point, why not delete "overview" in panel ? You just need to arrow up to display the synopsis.
- Concerning the synopsis precisely, I think that the line spacing of the text should be tightened even if it makes the font even bigger to be able to read easily from the back of the sofa. I also think it would be more aesthetic to justify the text.
- I find it unnecessary to display the gallery in the overview since it is already present at the bottom of the information panel. In addition, these images are often of very different formats and of very variable quality. I would prefer that we can see the fanart in full screen by pressing the arrow again for example.
- On the different views (movies, tv shows, music ...), I find the summary illegible because too small to be read from the sofa (it is not specific to AH but to all skins), and it is really a shame for a mediacenter supposed to be on the living room TV. With this in mind, instead of displaying an illegible summary, why not replace it with the "tag line" with a sufficient font size, that we see too rarely for my taste in skins? It's made to inspire the desire to know more or to play the media. In addition it will take less space, and would allow to display larger covers !
- And I don't know if it's this period of confinement or not, but I find that having the date at the time level would be really appreciated ... Difficult to know what day it is right now ...
- Also, I think you should make a choice of menu for the parameters: either the native, or the specific to the Arctic series, which I find very successful. It just lacks the logs, the file manager and the addon manager.
Anyway, I think AH is going in the right direction. Good job !
1. The overview button is mostly there for discoverability from new users. Most of the other buttons are also available from the context menu (e.g. info and trailer). The buttons are for new users that wont know that up opens overview or long press opens context menu - so basically makes it easier to use for new users whilst also having shortcuts for pro users.
2. I don't like justified text - it is difficult to read. Same goes with linespacing - decently spaced text is much easier to read, plus prevents crowding on screen. I don't have any problems reading text on my tv. According to this calculator https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship - a 70 inch tv is the ideal size for best viewing from 10ft. In my loungeroom, my tv is much smaller (50 inch) and from 10ft away I have no issues reading the text at it's current font size (granted I need my glasses, but even very large font sizes are blurry without my glasses at that distance so that is a moot point). If you have a tv that is smaller than 50inch, really your viewing distance should be less than 10ft.
3. Yeah I agree with this. I've made it so that you see fanart fullscreen by pressing right. You can still scroll through to see the gallery, but the first items will now always be your fanart from the library.
4. See point 2
5. I don't like showing the date. Time is relevant to making a viewing choice, but date really isn't -- well the date is relevant if you need to go to work in the morning - but if you don't know what day it is, you probably don't need to go to work in the morning...
6. I don't know what this means. I'm assuming by "parameters" you mean the French word for Settings? But I'm still not understanding what you are asking for. You can see these options already for settings:
Hi @jurialmunkey
1. So why not allow switch between "novice" and "pro" users in order to push the simplicity concept further for purists ? That would be great !
2. I understand, however I find spacingline a little too high. Can we consider a test ?
3. Very good !
4. The plot on 2 lines forces to active scrolling, and so, it's really difficult to read because you have to be fast ! If no scrolling, plot is very useless. That right for spotlight widget too.
5. It will be convenient for weather too, not only for work ... Like "profil", "Home icon", or "time", why not give possibility to able or disable this option ?
6. Yes, it's the french word for "setting"
The native setting menu for Kodi Estuary is this one, and when I go in "skin setting", it switch to Arctic serie menu with the same content as native menu without log, addons manager and files manager.
So I think you should choose to keep only one
Another suggestion : ok that AH is intended to be simple, but maybe it would be good to propose just one choice between 2 viewtypes (for all media type like movies music games...) for the one who like a "covers on two lines". In my case (I consider myself "pro" user since I use Kodi for very long time) when I navigate on "music", "movie" or "TV shows", I dont need details like plots or rating. Just titles or artists name for music, or titles, formats and durations for video. But I need to navigate with greater visibility on covers (like 2 lines), that more beautiful, and type on "i" if I want to know more detail.
And for emulators games like MAME, this is even more true given the size of the collections. too long to navigate on a one line viewtype. It's often the cover's games that reminds us and not the titles. So if you want to standardize views for all mediatypes, you have to take it into consideration
RE: Arctic Horizon - drinfernoo - 2020-04-19
(2020-04-19, 02:23)myghalloween Wrote: (2020-03-29, 02:16)jurialmunkey Wrote: (2020-03-28, 21:19)myghalloween Wrote: Hi @jurialmunkey
There are a lot of great ideas in AH!
Like many, I find that it lacks additional views (at least the most useful) but I respect your idea and it may take time to adapt. The idea of standardizing everything is really appreciable, it is often what is lacking in others (in general it is confined to film and series, and for the rest you have to do as you can).
I just used it a bit to get an idea and here are some ideas that might interest you:
- Respecting your idea of simplifying to get to the point, why not delete "overview" in panel ? You just need to arrow up to display the synopsis.
- Concerning the synopsis precisely, I think that the line spacing of the text should be tightened even if it makes the font even bigger to be able to read easily from the back of the sofa. I also think it would be more aesthetic to justify the text.
- I find it unnecessary to display the gallery in the overview since it is already present at the bottom of the information panel. In addition, these images are often of very different formats and of very variable quality. I would prefer that we can see the fanart in full screen by pressing the arrow again for example.
- On the different views (movies, tv shows, music ...), I find the summary illegible because too small to be read from the sofa (it is not specific to AH but to all skins), and it is really a shame for a mediacenter supposed to be on the living room TV. With this in mind, instead of displaying an illegible summary, why not replace it with the "tag line" with a sufficient font size, that we see too rarely for my taste in skins? It's made to inspire the desire to know more or to play the media. In addition it will take less space, and would allow to display larger covers !
- And I don't know if it's this period of confinement or not, but I find that having the date at the time level would be really appreciated ... Difficult to know what day it is right now ...
- Also, I think you should make a choice of menu for the parameters: either the native, or the specific to the Arctic series, which I find very successful. It just lacks the logs, the file manager and the addon manager.
Anyway, I think AH is going in the right direction. Good job !
1. The overview button is mostly there for discoverability from new users. Most of the other buttons are also available from the context menu (e.g. info and trailer). The buttons are for new users that wont know that up opens overview or long press opens context menu - so basically makes it easier to use for new users whilst also having shortcuts for pro users.
2. I don't like justified text - it is difficult to read. Same goes with linespacing - decently spaced text is much easier to read, plus prevents crowding on screen. I don't have any problems reading text on my tv. According to this calculator https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship - a 70 inch tv is the ideal size for best viewing from 10ft. In my loungeroom, my tv is much smaller (50 inch) and from 10ft away I have no issues reading the text at it's current font size (granted I need my glasses, but even very large font sizes are blurry without my glasses at that distance so that is a moot point). If you have a tv that is smaller than 50inch, really your viewing distance should be less than 10ft.
3. Yeah I agree with this. I've made it so that you see fanart fullscreen by pressing right. You can still scroll through to see the gallery, but the first items will now always be your fanart from the library.
4. See point 2
5. I don't like showing the date. Time is relevant to making a viewing choice, but date really isn't -- well the date is relevant if you need to go to work in the morning - but if you don't know what day it is, you probably don't need to go to work in the morning...
6. I don't know what this means. I'm assuming by "parameters" you mean the French word for Settings? But I'm still not understanding what you are asking for. You can see these options already for settings:
Hi @jurialmunkey
1. So why not allow switch between "novice" and "pro" users in order to push the simplicity concept further for purists ? That would be great !
2. I understand, however I find spacingline a little too high. Can we consider a test ?
3. Very good !
4. The plot on 2 lines forces to active scrolling, and so, it's really difficult to read because you have to be fast ! If no scrolling, plot is very useless. That right for spotlight widget too.
5. It will be convenient for weather too, not only for work ... Like "profil", "Home icon", or "time", why not give possibility to able or disable this option ?
6. Yes, it's the french word for "setting"
The native setting menu for Kodi Estuary is this one, and when I go in "skin setting", it switch to Arctic serie menu with the same content as native menu without log, addons manager and files manager.
So I think you should choose to keep only one
Another suggestion : ok that AH is intended to be simple, but maybe it would be good to propose just one choice between 2 viewtypes (for all media type like movies music games...) for the one who like a "covers on two lines". In my case (I consider myself "pro" user since I use Kodi for very long time) when I navigate on "music", "movie" or "TV shows", I dont need details like plots or rating. Just titles or artists name for music, or titles, formats and durations for video. But I need to navigate with greater visibility on covers (like 2 lines), that more beautiful, and type on "i" if I want to know more detail.
And for emulators games like MAME, this is even more true given the size of the collections. too long to navigate on a one line viewtype. It's often the cover's games that reminds us and not the titles. So if you want to standardize views for all mediatypes, you have to take it into consideration
It kind of sounds like you want AZ2
RE: Arctic Horizon - jurialmunkey - 2020-04-19
(2020-04-18, 16:07)TheGame1986 Wrote: Fantastic skin, Jurialmunkey, as always.
I have a request, would it be possible for episode images to fallback to the TV show fanart if the episode has no image?
Thanks for the hard work! Have a great weekend.
EDIT: I did this for myself in Aura by loading the fanart behind the episode image, but I don't know how feasible that is widespread from system to system?
It really should do this already. Does it not do this?
RE: Arctic Horizon - jurialmunkey - 2020-04-19
(2020-04-19, 02:23)myghalloween Wrote: (2020-03-29, 02:16)jurialmunkey Wrote: (2020-03-28, 21:19)myghalloween Wrote: Hi @jurialmunkey
There are a lot of great ideas in AH!
Like many, I find that it lacks additional views (at least the most useful) but I respect your idea and it may take time to adapt. The idea of standardizing everything is really appreciable, it is often what is lacking in others (in general it is confined to film and series, and for the rest you have to do as you can).
I just used it a bit to get an idea and here are some ideas that might interest you:
- Respecting your idea of simplifying to get to the point, why not delete "overview" in panel ? You just need to arrow up to display the synopsis.
- Concerning the synopsis precisely, I think that the line spacing of the text should be tightened even if it makes the font even bigger to be able to read easily from the back of the sofa. I also think it would be more aesthetic to justify the text.
- I find it unnecessary to display the gallery in the overview since it is already present at the bottom of the information panel. In addition, these images are often of very different formats and of very variable quality. I would prefer that we can see the fanart in full screen by pressing the arrow again for example.
- On the different views (movies, tv shows, music ...), I find the summary illegible because too small to be read from the sofa (it is not specific to AH but to all skins), and it is really a shame for a mediacenter supposed to be on the living room TV. With this in mind, instead of displaying an illegible summary, why not replace it with the "tag line" with a sufficient font size, that we see too rarely for my taste in skins? It's made to inspire the desire to know more or to play the media. In addition it will take less space, and would allow to display larger covers !
- And I don't know if it's this period of confinement or not, but I find that having the date at the time level would be really appreciated ... Difficult to know what day it is right now ...
- Also, I think you should make a choice of menu for the parameters: either the native, or the specific to the Arctic series, which I find very successful. It just lacks the logs, the file manager and the addon manager.
Anyway, I think AH is going in the right direction. Good job !
1. The overview button is mostly there for discoverability from new users. Most of the other buttons are also available from the context menu (e.g. info and trailer). The buttons are for new users that wont know that up opens overview or long press opens context menu - so basically makes it easier to use for new users whilst also having shortcuts for pro users.
2. I don't like justified text - it is difficult to read. Same goes with linespacing - decently spaced text is much easier to read, plus prevents crowding on screen. I don't have any problems reading text on my tv. According to this calculator https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-size/size-to-distance-relationship - a 70 inch tv is the ideal size for best viewing from 10ft. In my loungeroom, my tv is much smaller (50 inch) and from 10ft away I have no issues reading the text at it's current font size (granted I need my glasses, but even very large font sizes are blurry without my glasses at that distance so that is a moot point). If you have a tv that is smaller than 50inch, really your viewing distance should be less than 10ft.
3. Yeah I agree with this. I've made it so that you see fanart fullscreen by pressing right. You can still scroll through to see the gallery, but the first items will now always be your fanart from the library.
4. See point 2
5. I don't like showing the date. Time is relevant to making a viewing choice, but date really isn't -- well the date is relevant if you need to go to work in the morning - but if you don't know what day it is, you probably don't need to go to work in the morning...
6. I don't know what this means. I'm assuming by "parameters" you mean the French word for Settings? But I'm still not understanding what you are asking for. You can see these options already for settings:
Hi @jurialmunkey
1. So why not allow switch between "novice" and "pro" users in order to push the simplicity concept further for purists ? That would be great !
2. I understand, however I find spacingline a little too high. Can we consider a test ?
3. Very good !
4. The plot on 2 lines forces to active scrolling, and so, it's really difficult to read because you have to be fast ! If no scrolling, plot is very useless. That right for spotlight widget too.
5. It will be convenient for weather too, not only for work ... Like "profil", "Home icon", or "time", why not give possibility to able or disable this option ?
6. Yes, it's the french word for "setting"
The native setting menu for Kodi Estuary is this one, and when I go in "skin setting", it switch to Arctic serie menu with the same content as native menu without log, addons manager and files manager.
So I think you should choose to keep only one
7. Another suggestion : ok that AH is intended to be simple, but maybe it would be good to propose just one choice between 2 viewtypes (for all media type like movies music games...) for the one who like a "covers on two lines". In my case (I consider myself "pro" user since I use Kodi for very long time) when I navigate on "music", "movie" or "TV shows", I dont need details like plots or rating. Just titles or artists name for music, or titles, formats and durations for video. But I need to navigate with greater visibility on covers (like 2 lines), that more beautiful, and type on "i" if I want to know more detail.
And for emulators games like MAME, this is even more true given the size of the collections. too long to navigate on a one line viewtype. It's often the cover's games that reminds us and not the titles. So if you want to standardize views for all mediatypes, you have to take it into consideration
1. No. Too much option bloat.
2. No. I've already tested many variations of line spacing.
4. About half my movies have plots that fit on two lines. Most of the rest fit on three lines, so there's only one line of scrolling which is easy to read. If your plot labels are longer than three lines, then they probably give too much of the movie away. IMO, plot should just be a brief overview of the movie to give you a quick idea of whether you want to watch it - it shouldn't be the entire movie synopsis.
5. Too much option bloat. The whole purpose of this skin is to have something simple that works out of the box without a million options.
6. How would you access file manager and log otherwise. The layout is to make it easy for people to find things. You can bypass the base layout of settings and directly open skinsettings by changing your settings shortcut to ActivateWindow(skinsettings)
7. I've already covered this point many times before.
RE: Arctic Horizon - jurialmunkey - 2020-04-19
@myghalloween - Also, the other reason why there isn't a specific wall view is because I've been working on a feature that will replace the scrollbar with a multi-directional wall view -- basically you will press down from the horizontal list and can navigate in the wall view - a back press will return to the main list, a click opens the item, and info opens the info. The **only** way these types of things are able to work is by not having selectable viewtypes so I know exactly what to expect in terms of transitions.
There's still lots of bugs, so it isn't ready for release, but this video shows off how it will work when I do finally have it ready:
I've been working on this feature pretty much since I started this skin. I finally think I've got a few of the bigger issues with it sorted out - so it is actually fairly close to working properly now.
RE: Arctic Horizon - Fhdf - 2020-04-19
Could anyone help me understand what line of code I should edit to make it so that whenever the OSD bar appears it automatically pauses whatever I’m watching?
Many thanks
RE: Arctic Horizon - Aaiemron - 2020-04-19
(2020-04-19, 10:04)jurialmunkey Wrote: @myghalloween - Also, the other reason why there isn't a specific wall view is because I've been working on a feature that will replace the scrollbar with a multi-directional wall view -- basically you will press down from the horizontal list and can navigate in the wall view - a back press will return to the main list, a click opens the item, and info opens the info. The **only** way these types of things are able to work is by not having selectable viewtypes so I know exactly what to expect in terms of transitions.
There's still lots of bugs, so it isn't ready for release, but this video shows off how it will work when I do finally have it ready:
I've been working on this feature pretty much since I started this skin. I finally think I've got a few of the bigger issues with it sorted out - so it is actually fairly close to working properly now.
That is a really nice feature. Looks great
RE: Arctic Horizon - FXB78 - 2020-04-19
(2020-04-19, 10:48)Fhdf Wrote: Could anyone help me understand what line of code I should edit to make it so that whenever the OSD bar appears it automatically pauses whatever I’m watching?
Many thanks Pressing the pause button will do this, there's an option in the settings to show full OSD info when paused.
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