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RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - Adam7288 - 2013-01-21
Please check out libretro.org to learn more about how this will work. The front-end doesn't interface with any old emulator, but rather with specific emulator "cores" developed to use the libretro api for input, output and the like.
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - st graveyard - 2013-01-21
Subscribed. This all sounds amazing!
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - negge - 2013-01-22
Really interesting project! I've been using RetroArch for NES/SNES/Sega Megadrive/PSX ever since I stumbled upon it a few months ago and it's been great. I hope that (no disrespect to malte) that everything RCB does right now could be available in stock XBMC in the future.
Big ups to squarepusher and Themaister for making this endeavour even remotely possible!
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - st graveyard - 2013-01-22
Just want to ask ... Will support for classic computer system emulation also be made available at one point in the future? Thinking about Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Spectrum, Dosbox ?
Wow, I can't wait for this to happen in standard XBMC :-)
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - garbear - 2013-01-22
https://libretro.wordpress.com/
And don't forget prboom - "Port of prboom to libretro - plays Doom, Doom II, Final Doom and other Doom IWAD mods."
Common API = as we sit back squarepusher, Themaister, and other emulator authors make everything more awesome
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - Adam7288 - 2013-01-22
Garbear - Is professional experience with CSS3, jquery, php, and mysql enough to contribute to the UI for game selection or are the threads completely uncommon?
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - King Dude - 2013-01-22
(2013-01-22, 17:03)Adam7288 Wrote: Garbear - Is professional experience with CSS3, jquery, php, and mysql enough to contribute to the UI for game selection or are the threads completely uncommon?Frankly you'd be better set with experience with Python and XML. Good news is that both of them aren't super hard to learn due to the clear syntax of both languages (especially XML). C++ might even be a little useful to know, since it is the core of XBMC, but it's syntax is confusing and therefor is more difficult to learn (I myself have been learning it for about a year now). But that's just my thoughts.
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - Adam7288 - 2013-01-22
I was under the impression python was only reserved for plugins - not the core application features such as this?
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - garbear - 2013-01-23
c++ exclusively
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - malte - 2013-01-25
garbear Wrote:Top of my wishlist is a game database. If someone could help PR:1562 A) suck less and B) get merged, then I can hammer out the game library and VFS. Next up is integrating topfs2's Heimdall engine into XBMC so we can use it to scrape games into XBMC. After that, RetroPlayer will be fundamentally complete.I read this as if you plan to merge libretro integration and game library as one big thing called RetroPlayer. If so, is there any chance that you may change your priority to:
Tangent to that is fixing the audio delay, which is mostly AE territory. Also, adding in the badass features like rewind, shaders and netplay. Someone can take a stab at these in the meantime if they want. Once I finish the game library I'll redirect my attention to these tasks.
1. finish basic libretro integration and get it merged into XBMCs main branch
2. game database
3. ...
I have no idea what you plan to build into the game library, how long it may take to implement and how much time you have to spare for this task. My concern is just this: If you plan to wait with merging libretro into XBMCs main branch until you have finished the whole thing including game library there is the chance that this may take much longer until this is done/accepted (maybe even not with XBMC 13).
We already have 2 intermediate "game libraries" that could be easily adapted to work with libretro. So, libretro integration as a standalone feature is already an outstanding addition to XBMC that could be used immediately.
Just to show you how it already looks like with your branch (Skin is Aeon Nox):
Excuse the poor video quality. Anyway, this is just too cool to wait for it any longer
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - Memphiz - 2013-01-25
Worst thing users can do to devs - add pressure ... just my 2 cents. Patience must be very expensive to buy these days *shakes head*.
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - malte - 2013-01-25
Are you talking about the whole post or the "just can't wait any longer"-part? It wasn't meant like that. It should just add to the point to split the RetroPlayer from one big task to two smaller ones. That's all.
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - King Dude - 2013-01-26
(2013-01-25, 16:36)Memphiz Wrote: Worst thing users can do to devs - add pressure ... just my 2 cents. Patience must be very expensive to buy these days *shakes head*.This.
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - grassmunk - 2013-01-26
I disagree. This wasn't pressure, it was discussing how to approach adding this long awaited feature to xbmc and ideas on how to help get it working and breaking tasks in to smaller milestones to help garner support/contribution.
If anything the Advanced Launcher and RCB devs should be involved to help with, at a minimum, the database and data scraping portions (since they already have experience in that space). It would also be great if someone could mirror the good work that the emuxtras folks have done (they have everything you need, really: box front, back, cartridge, title shot, game screen, synopsis, game video its amazing) and add their two cents regarding the game database given that they essentially have full game databases full most retro systems already.
Edit: I thought malte looked familiar, he's the dev that makes RCB, which makes the above two comments about "users" a little akward.
RE: Integrated Video Game Emulators - Adam7288 - 2013-01-26
We need to be celebrating and supporting the dedication people like Malte have shown throughout the years, not tear them down for eagerness to make progress. King Dude and Memphiz, regardless of your rank, it appears you owe this gentleman an apology.