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RE: WMC as the backend - released - locoguano - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-04, 05:55)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-11-04, 05:15)locoguano Wrote: Getting "buffering" pauses every 5 seconds or so. XBMC and WMC are on the same PC, so its not a network issue. My PC isn't the most heavy-weight (core2duo 3.0ghz) which is plenty to play HD and such. Could this be the problem?

Hoops had a similar problem to to this, he fixed it by putting the recording tv directory on a dedicated disk - like techlife. Its worth the experiment if you have a drive lying around.

Finally... an excuse to get an SSD. Wink


RE: WMC as the backend - released - hoopsdavis - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-04, 06:00)locoguano Wrote:
(2013-11-04, 05:55)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-11-04, 05:15)locoguano Wrote: Getting "buffering" pauses every 5 seconds or so. XBMC and WMC are on the same PC, so its not a network issue. My PC isn't the most heavy-weight (core2duo 3.0ghz) which is plenty to play HD and such. Could this be the problem?

Hoops had a similar problem to to this, he fixed it by putting the recording tv directory on a dedicated disk - like techlife. Its worth the experiment if you have a drive lying around.

Finally... an excuse to get an SSD. Wink

locoguano, the dedicated drive for recorded TV doesn't have to be an SSD drive, if you have a spare drive in your PC or laying around, just give it a try. worked for me.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-04, 06:00)locoguano Wrote: Finally... an excuse to get an SSD. Wink

lol. If that is the only way my software will be useful to you, I deem it worthwhile Smile. Cheers.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - locoguano - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-04, 06:07)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-11-04, 06:00)locoguano Wrote: Finally... an excuse to get an SSD. Wink

lol. If that is the only way my software will be useful to you, I deem it worthwhile Smile. Cheers.
Is there a minimum size for this? I know that my 150gb was filling up fast...


RE: WMC as the backend - released - Dilligaf - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-03, 22:33)TexasTony Wrote: Hi Krusty...
Greetings from the parking lot at hotel 6

I was wondering, since I don't get automatic updates to the sd card, how will I know when it is time to get another significant update?
Also, is there a way to download add-on with a windows machine, then somehow upload them onto the pi?

Everything is working fine. Appreciate all the help you gave me to get to this point. It's not easy being internet challenged... lol

Tony
Ahh Motel 6 Raspbmc usually updates at the end of the month so you probably want to take your PI to the motel to update a week into the new month, this gives time for bugs to get worked out before you update. You can download most addons as .zip files (it may take some searching) and then "install from zip" in xbmc>settings>addons


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-03, 19:08)mayoman Wrote: Aaahhhhh, would this be why I can't get Irish Saorview (HD FTA channels) working properly in XBMC on my new windows box. Confused Been tearing my hair out (the little I have left) messing with XBMC Video & Audio settings.....

I just shave my head, waste less time that way.

To know for sure its the same problem, don't delete temporary files files in the debug tab of the server. The play back the ts file directly in xbmc and see if it stutters. Then play this ts in wmp (or whatever player you have) and see if it doesn't stutter.

(2013-11-04, 06:42)locoguano Wrote:
(2013-11-04, 06:07)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-11-04, 06:00)locoguano Wrote: Finally... an excuse to get an SSD. Wink

lol. If that is the only way my software will be useful to you, I deem it worthwhile Smile. Cheers.
Is there a minimum size for this? I know that my 150gb was filling up fast...

I put windows on the ssd (fast boot, fast everything), use a 1T or greater for recorded tv (and other media). But that's me.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - scott967 - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-03, 17:57)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-11-02, 01:47)scott967 Wrote: Client file read problem on Gotham / Windows 7


ServerWMC is running on Win 8
I have clients on a Win 7 machine. Client 1 is on XBMC Frodo 12.2. Client 2 is on XBMC Gotham 13A8. Both XBMC are running in portable mode and as far as I can tell I have both setup identically.

Hi Scott. When I first started playing with gotham I think I recall getting something similar with the alpha builds. So I downloaded a nightly, in my case it was :
XBMCSetup-20131024-135ae34-master.exe

and live-tv and wtv worked fine. Also looking at your logs, everything appears to be happening the way it is supposed to in the server. Before I spend time on this (I actaully have to help my son's friend with a system build today), can you try this nightly with the newest gotham client and let me know if it works?


OK That 1024 nightly is working. I will get the A9 build next and try that.

Update: Working in A9 as well.

scott s.
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RE: WMC as the backend - released - TexasTony - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-04, 06:43)Dilligaf Wrote:
(2013-11-03, 22:33)TexasTony Wrote: Hi Krusty...
Greetings from the parking lot at hotel 6

I was wondering, since I don't get automatic updates to the sd card, how will I know when it is time to get another significant update?
Also, is there a way to download add-on with a windows machine, then somehow upload them onto the pi?

Everything is working fine. Appreciate all the help you gave me to get to this point. It's not easy being internet challenged... lol

Tony
Ahh Motel 6 Raspbmc usually updates at the end of the month so you probably want to take your PI to the motel to update a week into the new month, this gives time for bugs to get worked out before you update. You can download most addons as .zip files (it may take some searching) and then "install from zip" in xbmc>settings>addons


Thanks, Dilligaf, will plan to take a trip downtown the first week of every month just to keep up.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - mit3gt - 2013-11-04

(2013-11-01, 19:19)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-11-01, 19:01)mit3gt Wrote: OK. Here you go. I chose channel 7 to schedule a recording. XBMC always seems to default to dual channel 1 when channel 7 is selected. I get the recording dot.

Logs ServerWMC - Channel 7 (shows recording dot)
http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=77940

For this one, I chose channel 4 to schedule a recording. XBMC always seems to default to dual channel 2 when channel 4 is selected. I don't get the recording dot.

Logs ServerWMC - Channel 4 (shows no recording dot)
http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=77942

Please note that all my channel have duplicates if the channel is merged in wmc. Not all channels are merged in WMC. My tuner priority on merged channels in wmc starts with the qam tuners (4) followed by the The DVB-T tuners (3). In XBMC if the channel is duplicated, dual channel #1 is always the The DVB-T tuners, while dual channel #2 is always the qam tuners. Hope that helps.

That helps a lot, thank you. I assume if the channel is not merged in wmc its because it is not duplicated in the other tuning space.

I'll get back to you later on this when I have time to study the logs.

I have been giving this some more thought and realized that I might have been to vague when explaining this issue to you. I want to stress that when I am in timeline view I do not get the duplicate channels because I have "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" enabled. This takes all the duplicates away. This only works in timeline view. All other views still give me the duplicate channel list. If I turn off "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" then I get the duplicate channels across the board even in timeline view. If I keep this setting turned off then I see all the recording dots, some on the first dual channel, some on the second dual channel. I like to keep the "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" enabled so I don't see the duplicate channels in timeline view. This is when the recording dot issue arises.

I hope that explains it better. I hope you were not chasing ghosts. If you were, I apologize. I hope to get this working where the recording dots show correctly in timeline view with "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" enabled if its at all possible.. With that said, you have really done some fantastic work here. I have migrated all my clients over to this, its not perfect, but its damn close. This is the closest I have ever been to a true softsled setup.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - GMan78 - 2013-11-05

(2013-10-08, 04:44)krustyreturns Wrote:
(2013-10-07, 04:37)LastChoice Wrote: First off, thanks for all the great work on this!

I've got everything setup and have it working with 1 of my tuners (an HD-PVR), but am having trouble watching live TV from my other tuners (analog, and QAM tuners on a Hauppauge Win-TV card).

When attempting to tune live TV to any channel that is served-up from either the analog or QAM tuner, the process fails with a "No Video Data Found on this Channel" error. The channels don't have any issue from within WMC, and I can successfully watch any of the channels that are served up from the HD-PVR tuner through the XBMC PVR with no issues.

Any help in troubleshooting would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

I've provided one of the logs that includes the errors:
http://pastebin.com/UYFxPDn9

This doesn't explain these really weird results, but as a first step, please turn off the 'watched' recorded tv folders that you have set in wmc. At least until the next rev of the software, any wmc folder besides the main recorded tv folder will screw up the server. If you have the same problem, please run xbmc and the pvr.wmc client on the server machine. Post the log again if the problem is still there.

First, Krusty magnificent work! Can't tell you how grateful I am to have a shot at using WMC as a backend (former 6 year SageTV user). I am also getting the error "no video data found on this channel" when launching a LIVE TV channel. Everything else is working (EPG guide, playback of RecordedTV, etc). In the \\MEDIASERVER\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\savedForDebug folder I can see that the channel recording started successfully (approx. 5 seconds of video). Please see my log file below. I am using two Colossus tuners and Windows Media Center is working perfectly with both of them through the native application. I have deleted all references to "watched folders" in WMC as well as removed both the server and the client WMC PVR, deleted the original files and reinstalled with the same outcomes. Thoughts? THANK YOU!

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=79972


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-11-05

(2013-11-05, 03:57)GMan78 Wrote: First, Krusty magnificent work! Can't tell you how grateful I am to have a shot at using WMC as a backend (former 6 year SageTV user). I am also getting the error "no video data found on this channel" when launching a LIVE TV channel. Everything else is working (EPG guide, playback of RecordedTV, etc). In the \\MEDIASERVER\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\savedForDebug folder I can see that the channel recording started successfully (approx. 5 seconds of video). Please see my log file below. I am using two Colossus tuners and Windows Media Center is working perfectly with both of them through the native application. I have deleted all references to "watched folders" in WMC as well as removed both the server and the client WMC PVR, deleted the original files and reinstalled with the same outcomes. Thoughts? THANK YOU!

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=79972

I can't tell from the log, so please put the saved file you mention above here:
https://drive.google.com/?authuser=0#folders/0ByNnAMYBoWvfQVBBNzFhZmNPWUE

and let me know when its there.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-11-05

(2013-11-04, 22:14)mit3gt Wrote: I have been giving this some more thought and realized that I might have been to vague when explaining this issue to you. I want to stress that when I am in timeline view I do not get the duplicate channels because I have "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" enabled. This takes all the duplicates away. This only works in timeline view. All other views still give me the duplicate channel list. If I turn off "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" then I get the duplicate channels across the board even in timeline view. If I keep this setting turned off then I see all the recording dots, some on the first dual channel, some on the second dual channel. I like to keep the "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" enabled so I don't see the duplicate channels in timeline view. This is when the recording dot issue arises.

I hope that explains it better. I hope you were not chasing ghosts. If you were, I apologize. I hope to get this working where the recording dots show correctly in timeline view with "Use backend channel numbers (only works with one enabled PVR addon)" enabled if its at all possible.. With that said, you have really done some fantastic work here. I have migrated all my clients over to this, its not perfect, but its damn close. This is the closest I have ever been to a true softsled setup.

That does help and no worries. I have thought about this problem but not put a lot of time into it. I am trying to finish up the time-shift instant record thing that many people have requested whenever I get time to work on this project. I am in jury duty these days (blah), but that will end soon (assuming I don't get picked, but I never get picked Smile). After I get the next rev out with time-shift, I will look at this and probably ask you to test some stuff if you are willing. But yeah, if I forget don't worry about bumping it.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - scarecrow420 - 2013-11-05

mit3gt, you obviosly have quite a complicated and unique setup... it might help those of us trying to get across it, if you stated how you would see things working if it was all "perfect". Personally since Im in a country where we just have DVB-T broadcast only, Im struggling to understay why you have multiple different types of receiving the same channels and why you want them all to co-exist. If you have collapsed them in WMC couldnt you just hide them or disable them or whatever, and thus only present 1 copy of each channel to XBMC in this case?

It sounds like using the "use backend channel numbers" is hiding them because they probably all have the same channel number... but when you actually perform a recording on them ServerWMC is picking one of the underlying channels to do the actual recording but that may be changing from time to time and thus the recording "dot" doesnt show in the timeline (depending on whether the recording is occuring on that copy of the channel or one of the other copies that is not being shown on the timeline). So couldnt you just make it so you only have 1 of each channel and then there would only be one choice for the recording to happen on, and 1 choice for the EPG timeline to show?


RE: WMC as the backend - released - krustyreturns - 2013-11-05

(2013-11-05, 03:57)GMan78 Wrote: First, Krusty magnificent work! Can't tell you how grateful I am to have a shot at using WMC as a backend (former 6 year SageTV user). I am also getting the error "no video data found on this channel" when launching a LIVE TV channel. Everything else is working (EPG guide, playback of RecordedTV, etc). In the \\MEDIASERVER\Recorded TV\TempXBMC\savedForDebug folder I can see that the channel recording started successfully (approx. 5 seconds of video). Please see my log file below. I am using two Colossus tuners and Windows Media Center is working perfectly with both of them through the native application. I have deleted all references to "watched folders" in WMC as well as removed both the server and the client WMC PVR, deleted the original files and reinstalled with the same outcomes. Thoughts? THANK YOU!

http://xbmclogs.com/show.php?id=79972

I got the file, thanks for the upload. It has the same problem mit3gt reported, namely that the AAC audio stream was not being handled. This is fixed in the version we are working with now and will out in the next release of the server.


RE: WMC as the backend - released - TechLife - 2013-11-05

To the guys that are running this on ATV1 with the BCM or ATV2: Have you had success with HD channels? I can get it to work, but it stutters on both to the point of being unwatchable (both wired). My uncompressed BD backups do the same. (Though I have an old pc with a 3 series Radeon that can do TV but not BD.) Bottom line is I don't think either of these have the power to do it. I wanted to confirm this before I mention it in the wiki to make sure it isn't just me. Thanks!