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RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - Uukrul - 2015-04-19
(2015-04-19, 12:59)jmh2002 Wrote: I deleted cache.sqlite, but unfortunately no change. Still no thumbnails.
Please tell me what I should test next for you.
Try to delete \Roaming\XBMC\userdata\Database\Textures13.db (make a copy of the file in case something goes wrong)
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - jmh2002 - 2015-04-19
Won't that delete ALL my thumbnails system wide? I dont think I want that.
I dont have a problem with thumbnails elsewhere in Kodi - its only YouTube. And its only thumbnails from videos, the red youtube logo thumbnails work.
So, its almost like the thumbnails are not being retrieved from the internet.
Bromix - can you see that from the log. Or can I see or test that locally?
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - bromix - 2015-04-19
(2015-04-19, 13:37)jmh2002 Wrote: Won't that delete ALL my thumbnails system wide? I dont think I want that.Uukrul test is valid and no...I havn't seen anything in your log. Nothing I can do.
I dont have a problem with thumbnails elsewhere in Kodi - its only YouTube. And its only thumbnails from videos, the red youtube logo thumbnails work.
So, its almost like the thumbnails are not being retrieved from the internet.
Bromix - can you see that from the log. Or can I see or test that locally?
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - Uukrul - 2015-04-19
(2015-04-19, 13:37)jmh2002 Wrote: Won't that delete ALL my thumbnails system wide? I dont think I want that.
Thumbnails are stored at \userdata\Thumbnails\ so no, you won't loose them.
btw, are you using Kodi or XBMC?, because the userdata path isn't the same -> \AppData\Roaming\Kodi\
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - jmh2002 - 2015-04-19
(2015-04-19, 14:59)bromix Wrote: Nothing I can do.
Oh... ok...
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - jmh2002 - 2015-04-19
@Uukrul:
- Im using XBMC 13.2
- I tried the Textures delete, no change
However thank you for your suggestions
@Bromix:
I helped myself.
After totally deleting my youtube installation, and after reinstalling, I have thumbnails back. But, these are the thumbnails of the channel, not the specific video.
Then I remembered that my skin (CCM - Confluence Customizable Mod) has a toggle to show/hide Episode Thumbnails.
So, eg: for TV Show episodes it does exactly what I mentioned above. It shows the Thumbnail for the Show, rather than a screen capture from that episode.
It seems with the latest updates of the YouTube Addon this skin setting is also now having an effect with YouTube too.
This doesn't seem to be the case with my other addons that display a Thumbnail for the video (essentially a screen capture of one of the video frames). They continue to display normally.
@Bromix: does this make sense based on any technical changes that you may have made in the last updates?
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - bromix - 2015-04-19
(2015-04-19, 16:24)jmh2002 Wrote: @Uukrul:Then the skin isn't working (in my opinion) correctly. The Addon uses the EPISODE content type for almost half a year now and I haven't heard any complains til now
- Im using XBMC 13.2
- I tried the Textures delete, no change
However thank you for your suggestions
@Bromix:
I helped myself.
After totally deleting my youtube installation, and after reinstalling, I have thumbnails back. But, these are the thumbnails of the channel, not the specific video.
Then I remembered that my skin (CCM - Confluence Customizable Mod) has a toggle to show/hide Episode Thumbnails.
So, eg: for TV Show episodes it does exactly what I mentioned above. It shows the Thumbnail for the Show, rather than a screen capture from that episode.
It seems with the latest updates of the YouTube Addon this skin setting is also now having an effect with YouTube too.
This doesn't seem to be the case with my other addons that display a Thumbnail for the video (essentially a screen capture of one of the video frames). They continue to display normally.
@Bromix: does this make sense based on any technical changes that you may have made in the last updates?
...the default confluence skin is working fine...with this addon and TV Shows. Contact the developer of your mod. This isn't an issue with the Addon.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - jmh2002 - 2015-04-20
(2015-04-19, 18:40)bromix Wrote: Then the skin isn't working (in my opinion) correctly. The Addon uses the EPISODE content type for almost half a year now and I haven't heard any complains til now
Ok thanks, strange that its only appeared now, but at least we found the issue.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - VelvetKevorkian - 2015-04-20
A lot of people will see this video in their "My subscriptions" inbox,
even though the have not subscribed to this channel:
The video displays a message:
"YouTube is upgrading to a newer version, which is not supported by this device or app.
To learn more and see where you can watch YouTube, visit
www.youtube.com/devicesupport"
I run KODI on a linux box, i presume anyone using this addon will be barred from watching YouTube.
Presumably because it does not display their ads.
Which means that the good ol' days of watching YT anywhere are soon over
and YT will be like a tv channel, riddled with ads and limited to specific devices/apps.
Greedy c****.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - bromix - 2015-04-20
(2015-04-20, 20:59)VelvetKevorkian Wrote: A lot of people will see this video in their "My subscriptions" inbox,Man...don't. You see this only because I use for My Subscriptions the APIv2 (till I find something similar in APIv3). Nothing more. The rest will work because it's APIv3. Everything is fine, the addon isn't banned or anything similar. I hope I will not have any user whining about that now for the whole evening. Please stop making any assumptions.
even though the have not subscribed to this channel:
The video displays a message:
"YouTube is upgrading to a newer version, which is not supported by this device or app.
To learn more and see where you can watch YouTube, visit
www.youtube.com/devicesupport"
I run KODI on a linux box, i presume anyone using this addon will be barred from watching YouTube.
Presumably because it does not display their ads.
Which means that the good ol' days of watching YT anywhere are soon over
and YT will be like a tv channel, riddled with ads and limited to specific devices/apps.
Greedy c****.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - VelvetKevorkian - 2015-04-20
Okay, i sincerely hope that you're right and i'm wrong.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - bromix - 2015-04-20
I'm pretty sure
it's only the deprecation of APIv2 (in this case -> My Subscriptions)...nothing more
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - rodalpho - 2015-04-20
It truly is astonishing that they don't support a chronological list of subscribed videos in APIv3. It's such incredibly basic frontline functionality.
I mean collections and such, sure, that's secondary. But list of subscribed videos is how I (and a lot of people) use Youtube.
Anyway, might be worthwhile to blacklist that video from showing up to avoid those types of questions. I didn't know you were still using APIv2 anywhere myself.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - tomatosoup - 2015-04-21
Luckily there are ways around it if the feature isn't added to the api by the time v2 is fully deprecated, unluckily those ways around it either lose videos sometimes (pulling from the activity feed and stripping out recommended videos), or are incredibly slow (amass all of the data from each channel subscribed and list in order of upload date). Hopefully Youtube listens to their developer fan base, although history has shown they don't really care much about this issue.
RE: YouTube v5.X.X - KODI 14.X Helix - rodalpho - 2015-04-21
I think they care about it very much, and are actively trying to kill third party youtube apps while allowing third-party youtube "integration" for things like comments and recommendations, that further increase Youtube's reach. But if you just want to watch videos, they want you to use their standard HTML5 app.