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Any user with hbbtv working? - myrasp - 2017-01-20
Hi there,
Any user from kodi forum use this client with Hbbtv working?
Cheers...
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - myrasp - 2017-01-27
68 - Read's and none post nothing ?
Ok means don't work...
Any user with hbbtv working? - mrwish - 2017-05-10
It'd need a couple of things to work -
1. For the PVR backend (either Enigma2 in this case, or TVHeadend or whatever) to pass through the HBBTV data to the Kodi client.
2. For an HBBTV parser/viewer to be implemented in Kodi. Maybe a plugin?
I'm also interested in this as a lot of European channels now carry HBBTV data and more will follow in the next few years!
Any user with hbbtv working? - leecooper - 2017-05-13
+1 here for this feature
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - jaeyjaey - 2017-06-12
Tvheadend supports it now:
https://tvheadend.org/issues/1711
Any user with hbbtv working? - mrwish - 2017-06-12
Yes it gets passed through with the HTSP stream with TVHeadend now!
Ready for any future Kodi development to enable the feature.
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - sarbes - 2017-06-12
Sorry to spoil your party, but porting and maintaining a whole blown HTML5 rendering engine/JS interpreter to 5+ major platforms (plus dozends of subvariants) is a project of its own - I think it is impossible.
I really don't get the HbbTV hype anyway. It is just a collection of clunky and unfunctional websites - terrible from a user perspective. Most sources can be accessed via add-ons already. Here in Germany, the content available via HbbTV is dwarfed by the content accessable through add-ons.
If something is not available via Kodi, create a request for a new add-on. This has a far higher chance of success.
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - mrwish - 2020-08-18
(2017-06-12, 18:22)sarbes Wrote: Sorry to spoil your party, but porting and maintaining a whole blown HTML5 rendering engine/JS interpreter to 5+ major platforms (plus dozends of subvariants) is a project of its own - I think it is impossible.
I really don't get the HbbTV hype anyway. It is just a collection of clunky and unfunctional websites - terrible from a user perspective. Most sources can be accessed via add-ons already. Here in Germany, the content available via HbbTV is dwarfed by the content accessable through add-ons.
If something is not available via Kodi, create a request for a new add-on. This has a far higher chance of success.
Just to update this, I think while what you've said was pretty true back in 2017, in the meantime HBBTV has carried on improving and establishing itself. It provides a pretty good interface for catch-up TV, especially in countries like Spain and Germany nowadays. A good example of new and useful stuff is a feature on TV3 in Catalonia is being able to restart the currently airing programme by pressing yellow.
I get what you mean though about incorporating full HTML5/JS interpretation being a tough ask.
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - sarbes - 2020-08-19
My statement still holds up today. Content available via HbbTV is just a subset of what is available here in Germany.
The funny thing is, I had some prototypes back then, which allowed exactly what you described. With some scripts it was possible to watch past and future programs by selecting the EPG entries of them. A far better user experience compared to all the different clunky interfaces out there.
I've also written scripts which extended the EPG information (season/episode numbers, thumbnails).
In the end, the user response was underwhelming to say the least.
If I would have to implement this again, it would have to be supported in the core. I strongly believe that this would be a far superior and easy maintainable solution, making HbbTV defacto unnecessary.
I'm still interested in doing something like that, if someone wants to work on it.
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - comanchero - 2021-05-26
Hey, guys!
Here one more thread on the topic: https://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=141440
The developers just don't care - they are non-Europeans.
Good luck!
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - DarrenHill - 2021-05-26
Actually most of the developers are European. See the post just above yours for why there is little to no interest in this...
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - comanchero - 2021-05-26
(2021-05-26, 14:38)DarrenHill Wrote: ... there is little to no interest in this...
Really?
OK, let's see how many times it has been mentioned here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=HbbTV+site%3AKodi.tv&ia=web
https://forum.kodi.tv/search.php?action=results&sid=86355cc139d45f2b04441d9c16107427
Now, let's see the list of the technological supporters:
https://www.hbbtv.org/membership/#members
Highlighted HbbTV Apps
https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/#services
Deployments - Available Detailed Countries Information
https://www.hbbtv.org/deployments/
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - phunkyfish - 2021-05-26
(2021-05-26, 17:10)comanchero Wrote:(2021-05-26, 14:38)DarrenHill Wrote: ... there is little to no interest in this...
Really?
OK, let's see how many times it has been mentioned here:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=HbbTV+site%3AKodi.tv&ia=web
https://forum.kodi.tv/search.php?action=results&sid=86355cc139d45f2b04441d9c16107427
Now, let's see the list of the technological supporters:
https://www.hbbtv.org/membership/#members
Highlighted HbbTV Apps
https://www.hbbtv.org/overview/#services
Deployments - Available Detailed Countries Information
https://www.hbbtv.org/deployments/
Unless there is a browser implementation in kodi this would not be possible. Prior to that happening there is nothing much that can be done anyway.
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - comanchero - 2021-05-27
(2021-05-26, 23:55)phunkyfish Wrote:(2021-05-26, 17:10)comanchero Wrote:Unless there is a browser implementation in kodi this would not be possible. Prior to that happening there is nothing much that can be done anyway.(2021-05-26, 14:38)DarrenHill Wrote:
Hi, phunkyfish,
THANKS for your response and the explanation.
Well, I'm not a programmer, but is it so difficult to implement a browser - Chromium, Firefox... whichever?
THANKS.
Best!
RE: Any user with hbbtv working? - User 272336 - 2021-05-27
Quote:Well, I'm not a programmer, but is it so difficult to implement a browser...This is up to hbbtv to do the browser implementation, otherwise, there is nothing for Kodi to go on.