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No smart TV install?! - meimeiriver - 2019-03-16
"Got a smart TV? You ain't seen nothin’ yet! Kodi puts your smart TV to shame."
Yeah, except Kodi won't install on a (Samsung/Philips/others?) smart TV. I saw some vids, blabbing about streaming to your TV via your smartphone. You gotta be kidding me! You guys really missed an opportunity here: now I have to keep an external Zbox, just to do Kodi. This is 2019: You should be able to install Kodi on a smart TV of the major TV brands. What a disappointment.
RE: No smart TV install?! - DarrenHill - 2019-03-16
It can be installed on Android TVs.
We simply don't have the dev resources to develop it on the various other OS's that TVs run on, even if they could support it from a technical viewpoint.
Being 2019 doesn't give us any more volunteer manpower to actually do the work involved...
RE: No smart TV install?! - DaVu - 2019-03-16
(2019-03-16, 13:43)meimeiriver Wrote: What a disappointment
You could help us. Buy the team TVs (some Samsungs, some LGs and probably all the others you would like to see Kodi on) which the developers could try to develop on. While you are at that, please also find a developer who will work on that in his free time getting not a single cent for his work and is also willing to maintain that if something changes on the OS side of the TV for the next couple of years.
You have to understand, that it's not Kodis fault, that you can't install/use Kodi on smart TVs. As it was said, you can install Kodi on smartt TVs which use Android as their OS (Sony or Philips). You could have simply informed yourself better and buying the correct TV using a specific OS before claiming about how disapointed you are because you can't install Kodi on any TV using whatever OS they use. The other way round might be, to contact your TV vendor and suggest that they should get in contact with TeamKodi so they could include Kodi on their app-store. Have fun with that
btw: https://kodi.tv/download
There you have a list which platforms we support. But I guess you already have been there before start claiming
Anyway, you can pretty easy stream media from your smartphone to nearly any TV if that TV in question is UPnP capable. Check your TV manual for that. If you don't want an additional device plugged on the TV, Kodi is also able to act as an UPnP server and client. Check our wiki for that. I guess you will find that wiki yourself
RE: No smart TV install?! - skylarking - 2019-03-18
@meimeiriver if you want Kodi on the $1000+ TV you bought, have a discussion with the manufacturer that benefited from your purchase. Ask them to port Kodi to their OS. Somehow i doubt they'd care too much as they already have your money. What a disappointment.
Heck, even when TV manufacturers use Android as their TV's OS, the manufacturers are rather slow at updating their OS to the latest version, if they do any updates at all. Reason is, they already have your money, as mentioned, and having a support organisation to do such OS updates costs them $$. That's $$ they don't want to spend. What a disappointment.They'd rather you buy another TV.
As a related example in corporate slackness, just look at Samsung (as just one example) and how bad this rather wealthy company was/is at updating the OS on last years phones. Keep in mind that people do banking on their phones with an old OS having known unpatched vulnerabilities, while contemplating being pushed into yet another $1000 phone purchase just to get the latest fixes. Then consider how much Samsung earns from phone sales each year? What a disappointment.
Yet the Kodi coders who volunteer their time to the open source Kodi project, with their blood sweat and tears, they do so at no cost to you, make no money from you. Yes, we may all get a little frustrated our beloved Kodi is not perfect but I think you need to re-evaluate "what a disappointment" really means.
So rather than make a pointless gripe, maybe you should appologise and simply be greatfull for what you have in Kodi. Otherwise you are always free to find something else to play your media.
RE: No smart TV install?! - meimeiriver - 2019-03-19
(2019-03-16, 13:57)DarrenHill Wrote: It can be installed on Android TVs.You are right, of course. I was frustrated, and took it out on Kodi. Not your fault. The situation is no less deplorable, though, anno 2019, as Kodi is simply the de facto media player, and it really ticks me off smart-TV support for it is so dismal. I still have my Zbox, of course, but it would have been so much cleaner if my Samsung smart-TV could have simply integrated Kodi. My apologies for the rant, though. I guess I will just need to write Samsung (for all the good it will do).
We simply don't have the dev resources to develop it on the various other OS's that TVs run on, even if they could support it from a technical viewpoint.
Being 2019 doesn't give us any more volunteer manpower to actually do the work involved...
RE: No smart TV install?! - DarrenHill - 2019-03-19
No problem. To be honest I don't say I disagree with you at all that it would be nice to have a common platform on all these new devices to install on and develop for. But it's not the case at the moment, so we're rather stuck in the situation we now have.
RE: No smart TV install?! - jjd-uk - 2019-03-19
(2019-03-19, 07:02)meimeiriver Wrote: The situation is no less deplorable, though, anno 2019, as Kodi is simply the de facto media player, and it really ticks me off smart-TV support for it is so dismal.
Most Smart TV's are far from smart, ok they maybe smart compared to old CRT tv's, but compared to most stand alone devices they are pretty dumb and under-powered. So even if all the Smart TV manufacturers offered open & free development kits for app developers, in a lot of cases all they are capable of is running simple html web apps, and even on the ones capable of running proper apps the experience would most likely be very dismal due the cheap processors they put into the tv's.
RE: No smart TV install?! - meimeiriver - 2019-03-20
(2019-03-19, 17:49)jjd-uk Wrote:(2019-03-19, 07:02)meimeiriver Wrote: The situation is no less deplorable, though, anno 2019, as Kodi is simply the de facto media player, and it really ticks me off smart-TV support for it is so dismal.
Most Smart TV's are far from smart, ok they maybe smart compared to old CRT tv's, but compared to most stand alone devices they are pretty dumb and under-powered. So even if all the Smart TV manufacturers offered open & free development kits for app developers, in a lot of cases all they are capable of is running simple html web apps, and even on the ones capable of running proper apps the experience would most likely be very dismal due the cheap processors they put into the tv's.
The latter is something I hadn't considered: even a smart TV that can do Kodi, likely won't do it as well -- CPU-wise -- as my Zbox.
RE: No smart TV install?! - bry - 2019-03-20
I wish I could buy a dumb tv and use my external Kodi box. Shrug. The smart TVs os/hw are crap compared to an external box. To each is own. What volunteer work do you do? Let's see if we can find something comparable to complain about that you have no control over.
RE: No smart TV install?! - skylarking - 2019-03-21
I'd also love to buy a quality 75" monitor that focuses on PQ, able to decode all video and audio format, does no 'smart tv' stuff and doesn't cost a bomb.
As is, I'm not interested in 5mm ultra thin screens, streaming services, web browsing, skype or other stuff being done within the TV itself.
Some external box that i control and can keep updated can do a much better job at a cheaper price than a smart TV up-sell costs (reluctant streaming service providers not withstanding).
But in consumer retail space, it's all about the up-sell and dragging the buyer into a higher price bracket.
There are always some commercial offerings, i think the NEC P series, that have a compute module slot in the back for those that want to install a RPi compute stick (but this came years after my flat screen purchase).
Oh, and if we are having grips, HDCP encrypted video could have been carried over GBE via a standard GBE controller + some custome encryption/dectription modules.
It would have allowed cheap and very reliable cables to be made length specific at home for dollar per foot but the industry chose a crippled HDMI physical layer to allow them to up-sell stupidly priced HDMI cables to stupid cashed up people.
Atleast with HDMI 2.1, we now can finally have a decent eARC back channel that GBE could have provided from day dot (and handled logical layer updates via firmware).
It's all part of consumerism i guess
