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Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - uomiarz - 2024-04-12
Hi,
My KODI PC is getting old.
I am currently running NVIDIA GT1030 but from what I remember this card (or drivers) is not supporting modern codecs.
AMD CPU is running strong so I will not be changing this.
I am planning on upgrading OS to the new Lubuntu LTS version and I was thinking about new video card.
From what I remember Intel was a best choice for Linux at some point.
Now I see Intel released some video cards but I cannot find anything on that topic here.
Can you recommend video card for Linux and KODI ?
Thank you,
Mike
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - wsnipex - 2024-04-13
Intel or AMD. Integrated GPU is sufficient, there is usually no need for a dedicated gfx card
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - MatteN - 2024-04-13
GT1030 runs just fine with Windows, mine plays 4k HEVC HDR.
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - uomiarz - 2024-04-15
@wsnipex
Yes, but I do already have running PC with AMD cpu and no build in GPU.
I am not planning on changing this.
@MatteN
From what I understand this is correct for Windows drivers but not Linux.
Playing any 4k HEVC HDR video causes all 8 cores of the CPU to go full load.
Any way, I bought an Intel video card.
I will test it and report back
thx
Mike
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - pgavk - 2024-04-15
(2024-04-15, 14:30)uomiarz Wrote: Any way, I bought an Intel video card.
I will test it and report back
note, depending on your specific Intel card/kernel combination ...
Intel's moving to an in-kernel release of 'Xe' drvr, as a replacement for 'i915' (currently stable-released in kernel 6.8.4+; OFF by default).
here, with kernel 6.8.4+, Intel Arc graphics, & Xe driver, hwaccel is non-functional.
kodi runs, just without VA accel.
if that's not an issue, no problem.
if it is, you'll need to stick with i915 driver until if/when intel-{gfx,xe,dri-devel}@kernel addresses the functional regression.
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - uomiarz - 2024-04-15
OK, thank you.
The whole idea is to get hardware acceleration so I will need to stick to i915.
This is never easy for Linux
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - pgavk - 2024-04-15
(2024-04-15, 17:50)uomiarz Wrote: The whole idea is to get hardware acceleration so I will need to stick to i915.
"... depending on your specific Intel card/kernel combination ..." _your_ combo may be OK with Xe; iiuc, i915 certainly should (?) be around awhile still, particularly with an LTS install.
for me, Intel's already pushed to 'solve' a (different/unrelated/boot) hardware issue by advising move from i915 -> Xe.
so my current choice is (1) boot without issue, OR (2) have hwaccel.
catch 22.
in any case, fyi: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/xe/kernel/-/issues/1555
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - HeySeeri - 2024-04-15
(2024-04-15, 14:30)uomiarz Wrote: @MatteNMy Intel Arc 380 handles everything Kodi throws at it. I am using Fedora with the non-free version of the intel-media-driver.
From what I understand this is correct for Windows drivers but not Linux.
Playing any 4k HEVC HDR video causes all 8 cores of the CPU to go full load.
Any way, I bought an Intel video card.
I will test it and report back
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - uomiarz - 2024-04-15
Non-free or not-open?
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - pgavk - 2024-04-15
(2024-04-15, 20:45)HeySeeri Wrote: My Intel Arc 380 handles everything Kodi throws at it. I am using Fedora with the non-free version of the intel-media-driver.
yes, as long as you're using the *current-default* i915 kernel driver
upstream intel-media-driver pkg (which provides the LIBVA driver; e.g, /usr/lib64/dri/iHD_drv_video.so) has a bug, missing correct headers for Xe KMD (kernel mode driver) headers, also necessary for DG2 (Arc) graphics support,
there's an upstream patch available, easy to apply,
https://github.com/intel/media-driver/pull/1784/commits/302a9a40821e9f89dc29f7a4c708f54af8764c28
committed on March 26, 2024. last tagged upstream release was intel-media-24.2.0, on March 24. but distros, e.g. Fedora, have yet older,
Code:
Name : intel-media-driver
!! Version : 23.4.3
Release : 1.fc39
Architecture : x86_64
Size : 6.9 M
Source : intel-media-driver-23.4.3-1.fc39.src.rpm
Repository : rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
Summary : The Intel Media Driver for VAAPI
URL : https://github.com/intel/media-driver
License : MIT and BSD
Description : The Intel Media Driver for VAAPI is a new VA-API (Video Acceleration API)
: user mode driver supporting hardware accelerated decoding, encoding,
: and video post processing for GEN based graphics hardware.
: https://01.org/intel-media-for-linuxmore details here
Bug 2273861 - missing H/W accel (libva) support on Intel Gen12+ gpu; Intel Xe KMD header files not enabled; upstream patch available
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2273861
remains to be seen if Intel Xe swaps in over i915 as default in Kernel 6.9+:
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-Xe-DRM-Linux-6.9-Pull
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - HeySeeri - 2024-04-16
(2024-04-15, 21:27)uomiarz Wrote: Non-free or not-open?
In fedora it is in the “non free” rpmfusion repo. I believe it is identical to the free version but it includes the encoder as well.
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - Asato - 2024-04-22
(2024-04-15, 14:30)uomiarz Wrote: @MatteNThat's interesting ... I also own a GT1030 and have not yet noticed that it and the nvidia drivers for linux (I`m on Void Linux) cannot handle anything ... don't think that it is necessary just for Kodi to upgrade the graphics card ...
From what I understand this is correct for Windows drivers but not Linux.
Playing any 4k HEVC HDR video causes all 8 cores of the CPU to go full load.
The GT1030 is even strong enough to handle most emulators up to Switch ...
... I guess at least driver support for linux is excellent for nvidia cards or did it change over the past years?
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - Asato - 2024-04-22
tested some of these video files
https://nascompares.com/guide/4k-1080p-hdr-hevc-and-uhd-files-to-download-and-test-your-plex-media-server-nas/
and yes, the 4k 400 MBit video file forces my HTPC to the knees ... 4 Cores 100% and still stuttering ...
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - uomiarz - 2024-04-24
@Asato
This is the GT1030 driver issue - no hardware support so the system is maxed out on CPUs.
I don't recall what exactly is it that Nvidia does not support but UHD BlueRay dumps are always running on CPUs and not GPU.
My new Intel card arrived, but it was either DOA or my motherboard does not handle it anymore (too old?)
I will have to reconsider the whole update idea and maybe just get new PC with Intel integrated CPU/GPU.
--
vdpauinfo
returns this:
...
H264_CONSTRAINED_BASELINE 41 65536 4096 4096
H264_EXTENDED 41 65536 4096 4096
H264_PROGRESSIVE_HIGH 41 65536 4096 4096
H264_CONSTRAINED_HIGH 41 65536 4096 4096
H264_HIGH_444_PREDICTIVE 41 65536 4096 4096
HEVC_MAIN 153 262144 8192 8192
HEVC_MAIN_10 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_STILL --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_12 --- not supported ---
HEVC_MAIN_444 --- not supported ---
Last 4 lines is the issue I guess.
GT1030 will not do 10bit HEVC and no HDR
RE: Looking for video card recommendation - Intel ? Nvidia ? - MatteN - 2024-04-24
(2024-04-24, 00:29)uomiarz Wrote: Last 4 lines is the issue I guess.Unless you use it on a Windows PC, then it works just fine.
GT1030 will not do 10bit HEVC and no HDR