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scarecrow420 · 2014-03-10, 02:00

so just for me to clarify what the intention here is, it is to directly support accessing streams over DLNA or some other means, from only Silicon Dust network tuners, while still grabbing the EPG data and scheduling recordings from WMC? There will be tuner contention wont there (DLNA/direct access tuners, vs those being grabbed by WMC)? Plus it has the limitations of only working with particular devices etc.

krustyreturns · 2014-03-10, 03:08

I assume it would work with any tuner that supports DLNA, I hope that's not just Si dust devices.

Yes, the rec servirvice would still be doing recordings, if we did this it would just be for live streams. For it to work, we would need to be able to handle contention between live-tv and rec-tv the same way we do now (which is basically that rec tv always wins).

I am not crazy about having special cases for hardware either. It might be an easy thing to do though, I just don't know enough to say.

scarecrow420 · 2014-03-10, 03:11

the current implementation is processing WTV container files and remuxing the video contents into a TS file container. If you went this way you would need to take the DLNA stream and then demux it and provide that to XBMC? Or can you just give XBMC a DLNA URL/connection i wonder...

LSU Jonno · (This post was last modified: 2014-03-10, 03:17 by LSU Jonno.)

XBMC can already support hdhomerun stream files.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HDHomeRun

Your client would basically just present the EPG and then a setting could allow hdhomerun users the ability to bypass the server and pull up live TV directly from the tuner. I imagine there would be no buffer/time shifting abilities, but it might be a little more stable for some of us with less than perfect LANs.

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=151460
This is basically what I asked for last year after farting around with all of the backends circa Frodo release. Now that we have SWMC this isn't that big of a deal, but there were a few people interested.

krustyreturns · 2014-03-10, 05:23

(2014-03-10, 03:11)scarecrow420 Wrote: the current implementation is processing WTV container files and remuxing the video contents into a TS file container. If you went this way you would need to take the DLNA stream and then demux it and provide that to XBMC? Or can you just give XBMC a DLNA URL/connection i wonder...

I am hoping its the later.

LSU Jonno · 2014-03-10, 16:33

You don't need to demux.

XBMC can already communicate directly with the DMS server in HDhomeruns.

Basically, we'd just want the XBMC EPG to be a front end for this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml0g2l01zVM

...by using your pvr.wmc addon to be able to switch between accessing the channels via Server WMC or UPnP.

krustyreturns · 2014-03-10, 17:32

@LSU Jonno, thanks for patiently educating scarecrow and me. Is it only hdhomeruns that would be able to use this?

LSU Jonno · 2014-03-10, 19:34

I think so.

I think hdhomeruns are the only tuners that have a built-in DMS for DLNA that I know of. This would probably be a niche feature in an already niche piece of software, but I do think there would be interest in it.

I've already linked you to my feature request from a year ago for someone to develop this very thing and there was interest:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=151460

There is also interest in this thread:
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=138745

And there is plenty of interest over on the HDhomerun boards:
http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewforum.php?f=56

krustyreturns · 2014-03-11, 02:25

If you are still okay with lending me one, I could check it out. No promises though (except to ship it back). I probably would need it for a couple of months, even if things go smoothly. Unless scarecrow wants to try it (but then you'd need to ship it to Australia). If you are still willing let me know and I'll PM you my info.

scarecrow420 · 2014-03-11, 02:53

It wont work in Australia unless it's a DVB-T one Smile

andersos · 2014-03-11, 08:22

A DVB-T version is supposed to be available in Q1.

proline · 2014-03-11, 10:57

PM me your info. I will send it to you by the end of the week.

zikronix · 2014-03-12, 22:07

I also purchased one of these in hopes to use it directly with xbmc and have pvr functions goto my nas. heres to hoping!

krustyreturns · 2014-03-13, 00:59

Proline says the tuner is in the mail (almost). I will update this thread if/when I have something worth updating. Thanks proline!