[ashlar]

You state that a DSPlayer user cannot take advantage of madVR Profiles?

You isolated part of my sentence.
This is the rest of it.

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I though about replying point by point but ended up discarding the idea, too time consuming.

One thing I can say for sure: you don't know my setup, which is far from being a plain vanilla one. I have madVR profiles, I have different codecs that activate according to needs, I use EventGhost (the fact you define it as BS frankly made me LOL but to each his own, I guess) to change sound renderer in DSPlayer when I use Audeze Mobius which need audio codecs to be decoded to PCM multichannel. To sum it up, while enjoying a multitude of different content I have not met a situation where I did not have the perfect solution. That is, until two days ago: apparently madVR can't handle HLG files, while Kodi can. And so I watched what I needed to watch in Kodi 20, which I keep updated, as mentioned.

The .iso thing... it's wrong for you to dismiss other people's views on the subject as "Those are just excuses beating around the bush". I *hate* discs, I *hate* the menus, the transition times between them, I hate the extras, I don't care. And if I care, on the rare occasion when it happens, I can download and watch them. When Kodi (XBMC back then IIRC) started supporting DVD ISOs I thought it was the coolest thing. Then I tried and no, thanks but no. I am happy the functionality is there for people that care, as you obviously do. But I'd be more careful in dismissing other tastes as excuses simply because those tastes do not coincide with yours.

Regarding the HDR thing... it's pretty clear cut. No, there is currently no way for any commercial display to show HDR "as it should be shown". OLED displays have peak luminance below 1000 nits once calibrated, LCD displays exceed that but still are nowhere near the 4000 nits several titles are mastered to. So it's a matter of tonemapping curves and more complex algorithms. I attended ISF courses, I calibrate my displays, I more or less know what we're talking about.
But again, if you're happy with your solution I am happy for you. The thing I don't understand is why you insist on dismissing others' choices as wrong or "excuses".

I'd say enough with the off-topic, anyway. Cheers!

[tonerudez]

I prefer the way madVR tonemaps and I calibrate my OLED so as to avoid doing any internal tonemapping (SamuriHL devised the method to do that).

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[Klojum]

I prefer the way madVR tonemaps

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[IT007]

Official Kodi does not have the capablities of directshow players so no, this is still not obsolete nor for "obsolete hardware".  My "obsolete" setup is I7 13700k, RTX 3080, Windows 11 and  a better GPU would still offer benefit.

In addition to better scaling and HDR tone mapping quality with Madvr, I use SVP for frame interpolation. Of course it would be nice to have these work with newer versions of Kodi, but this version still works just fine. The add-ons will probably stop working at some point if they haven't already, so using this will require a lot of things to be handeled by external applications.  If you could export resume points to a external player I might consider switching, but I would still lose some remote friendly overlay things, like selecting subtitles or audio tracks etc. As it stands, with my setup, I will be using Kodi Dsplayer untill a newer  Windows versions breaks it completely or a newer Directshow compatible version of Kodi is released.

But I do agree  that all of this is pretty advanced enthusiast stuff, if you are not sure you need Dsplayer, you probably don't and are better off with the official builds.

[robl45]

Whatever floats your boat. Svp was terrible, makes everything look like a soap opera. At any rate feel free to use it but it is still massively outdated. Much better at this point to just use an external player

[IT007]

Motion interpolation is of course a matter of taste, but something official Kodi cannot do. SVP is still updated and provides a much better and configurable experience than my projector or my TV which both do have this feature as well. 

For me external player has no advantages, I would only lose features like resume points, graphical ui for selecting audio or subtitle tracks, subtitle timing etc. I have used latest Kodi on other devices, but as far as I can see, I would gain nothing with official Kodi and external player, only lose features I like to use.

[brazen1]

Fyi, external players (including MPC) have resume points, ui for selecting audio and subtitles, subtitle timing, etc.  You lose nothing.

https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:MPC-BE

[IT007]

Last I used MPC with Kodi, the file would be marked watched immediately, whether you finish it or not. If that is still the case, then it won't matter if MPC has it's own resume points, I have many playlists that only show unwatched items.

The other stuff I didn't know about. MPC is the route I will go if dsplayer eventually breaks, but like I have said, currently it does not provide any upsides, and there is nothing in newer Kodi builds that I need.

[ashlar]

Last I used MPC with Kodi, the file would be marked watched immediately, whether you finish it or not.

You can configure this. Check playcountminimumtime here: https://kodi.wiki/view/External_players

[IT007]

Thanks, didn't know about that option. But it's still no match for playcountminimumpercent with internal players. Still good to know if Kodi Dsplayer eventually breaks.

[ashlar]

But it's still no match for playcountminimumpercent with internal players.

Oh, absolutely. I've wondered in the past if devs could have used the time-based counter to calculate the percentage of video having been watched, instead of a fixed value.
It would break for long pauses, I suppose... but maybe those would be fringe cases and it wouldn't be different from how it is today anyway, for those fringe cases.

[SmoothR]

Dear all. I tried to start my Kodi 17.7 with DSPlayer the first time since 2 months. I never had any issues the last 2 years. Since yesterday the player won't start and Kodi freezes.
A MadVR window popped up with the message "a problem occured".
If I try to use MPC as a stand alone player, it worked with madVR and LAVFilter absolutely fine.
I did not change any settings since the last start of Kodi or my PC 2 months ago... Can you help me please?

[ashlar]

Dear all. I tried to start my Kodi 17.7 with DSPlayer the first time since 2 months. I never had any issues the last 2 years. Since yesterday the player won't start and Kodi freezes.
A MadVR window popped up with the message "a problem occured".
If I try to use MPC as a stand alone player, it worked with madVR and LAVFilter absolutely fine.
I did not change any settings since the last start of Kodi or my PC 2 months ago... Can you help me please?

Please post a debug log. Instructions should be in my signature. Used DSPlayer yesterday with no problem.

I suppose the madVR windows pops up when you play videos. But do post the debug log, without that it's almost impossible to help you.

[SmoothR]

Hi to all. Thank you very much for your help.

I hope I did this correct:

https://paste.kodi.tv/cupafafoxu.kodi

[ashlar]

Hi to all. Thank you very much for your help.

I hope I did this correct:

https://paste.kodi.tv/cupafafoxu.kodi

I suppose the log stops where Kodi froze, right?

I don't see any relevant errors but I am not a developer. By having the debug log, maybe somebody more knowledgeable than me will be able to help you.