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jim_p · (This post was last modified: 2021-08-16, 19:47 by jim_p.)

I just noticed that there was an update to v1.0.4 (and script.module.tubed.api to 1.0.7) 5 days ago. And although the ONE change mentioned in github seemed very unimportant to me, I reinstalled it.
And the 403 error still plagues the addon. So, what is the point of updating it (and script.module.tubed.api too), even after 6+ months with no updates, if something does/can not fix its main functionality which is that of parsing youtube?

karsta62 · 2021-08-17, 07:27

(2021-08-16, 19:46)jim_p Wrote: I just noticed that there was an update to v1.0.4 (and script.module.tubed.api to 1.0.7) 5 days ago. And although the ONE change mentioned in github seemed very unimportant to me, I reinstalled it.
And the 403 error still plagues the addon. So, what is the point of updating it (and script.module.tubed.api too), even after 6+ months with no updates, if something does/can not fix its main functionality which is that of parsing youtube?

I guess this addon is dead for not any status published from the developer for a while. I hope I'm wrong though...
I wonder how the smart TV's handle youtube without issues?

jim_p · 2021-08-17, 09:40

Smart tvs have their os's specific youtube client, which has its keys etc built in I assume, thus have no issues using the youtube api. Nothing fascinating here.
What amazes me is how apps like newpipe work, because they scrap youtube as a web page, without the need of an api key. That is how a less troublesome addon for kodi should be developed.

karsta62 · 2021-08-17, 11:27

(2021-08-17, 09:40)jim_p Wrote: Smart tvs have their os's specific youtube client, which has its keys etc built in I assume, thus have no issues using the youtube api. Nothing fascinating here.
What amazes me is how apps like newpipe work, because they scrap youtube as a web page, without the need of an api key. That is how a less troublesome addon for kodi should be developed.

I see. But likewise, the Youtube addon as well as Tubed have the possibility (mandatory for the first) to configure API keys.
I'm sure that my usage with my own API-keys have not exceeded any quota ever. And still the quota error happens preventing both addons to work.
Sucks. Big time.

About API quota, google tells (at https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3...ng-started):
"The YouTube Data API uses a quota to ensure that developers use the service as intended and do not create applications that unfairly reduce service quality or limit access for others. All API requests, including invalid requests, incur at least a one-point quota cost. You can find the quota available to your application in the API Console."

So am I right, that probably any kodi youtube addon using api will break sooner or later? Usually sooner.

**DarrenHill** · 2021-08-17, 11:33

If you are using your own API keys and still getting quota errors, then it may be that you have not set something up correctly and you aren't actually using them (with the addon falling back to the generic keys, which are over quota).

On my devices I have working API keys (for the main YT addon rather than Tubed) and they work fine without any quota errors.

So it may be worth checking your debug log (wiki) and your API key set-up for errors or expiration. If the keys aren't used for a while then Google will expire them and they will cease working.

jim_p · 2021-08-17, 13:39

(2021-08-17, 11:27)karsta62 Wrote: I see. But likewise, the Youtube addon as well as Tubed have the possibility (mandatory for the first) to configure API keys.
I'm sure that my usage with my own API-keys have not exceeded any quota ever. And still the quota error happens preventing both addons to work.
Sucks. Big time.

Tubed's reason of existence is that it can access youtube without the need of an api key, or at least from the user's side. It obviously has an api key in its code, but it has probably expired months ago.
For me and for any user that hates this "mandatory creation of api key" for the original youtube addon, tubed was a life saver. For me it was also the reason to upgrade to kodi 19 on day 1!
But this is no longer the case and, if the user has to provide api keys for tubed too, it now has no reason to exist.
Assuming that someone has no problem using his api key in tubed, how does that benefit him? Is it faster than the youtube addon? Does it have any extra features? If not, then why use it? And from a dev's prespective, why develop it and maintain it?

Speaking as a user who was "forced" to create his own api keys for the first time back in 2017, when it was optional for the youtube addon because it worked as it should with the stock ones.

karsta62 · 2021-08-18, 09:35

(2021-08-17, 13:39)jim_p Wrote:
(2021-08-17, 11:27)karsta62 Wrote: I see. But likewise, the Youtube addon as well as Tubed have the possibility (mandatory for the first) to configure API keys.
I'm sure that my usage with my own API-keys have not exceeded any quota ever. And still the quota error happens preventing both addons to work.
Sucks. Big time.

Tubed's reason of existence is that it can access youtube without the need of an api key, or at least from the user's side. It obviously has an api key in its code, but it has probably expired months ago.
For me and for any user that hates this "mandatory creation of api key" for the original youtube addon, tubed was a life saver. For me it was also the reason to upgrade to kodi 19 on day 1!
But this is no longer the case and, if the user has to provide api keys for tubed too, it now has no reason to exist.
Assuming that someone has no problem using his api key in tubed, how does that benefit him? Is it faster than the youtube addon? Does it have any extra features? If not, then why use it? And from a dev's prespective, why develop it and maintain it?

Speaking as a user who was "forced" to create his own api keys for the first time back in 2017, when it was optional for the youtube addon because it worked as it should with the stock ones.

I had exactly the same reasons to go to kodi19...
With kodi18, with the youtube addon, my api keys started to complain about quota and youtube stopped working. I have no clue how it's possible. I'm not a heavy youtube user at all. Maybe one video per week max. Probably less.

I will not even try api keys with tubed. Because it should not have needed personal ones, it's a pain in the ass, and probably will not work. Not for long anyway.
And I'm not a developer for whom they are addressed.

It's sad that very much smaller video services have working addons for kodi, but not the biggest one.

jim_p · 2021-08-18, 12:11

About that last sentence that... I do not know how to quote :p
Other video services are hosted by companies whose first goal isn't how to track you. Yes, the api key was something that google forced on every third party app that wants to access youtube's api. That is not new. What is new is that it deleted a lot of api keys a while ago, forcing users like you and me to create their own so as to keep using their third party app AND it lowered the daily hits one can make to that api BY HALF.
There was a discussion about that behavior on an app's github page, I will post it once I find it if anyone is interested.

So one may say "Why don't you switch to invidious? It has its own kodi addon, although it is not listed in the main kodi repo". Because invidious's api is a bigger pita. And I can explain if you want, but we will be way offtopic.

karsta62 · 2021-08-19, 12:53

(2021-08-18, 12:11)jim_p Wrote: About that last sentence that... I do not know how to quote :p
Other video services are hosted by companies whose first goal isn't how to track you. Yes, the api key was something that google forced on every third party app that wants to access youtube's api. That is not new. What is new is that it deleted a lot of api keys a while ago, forcing users like you and me to create their own so as to keep using their third party app AND it lowered the daily hits one can make to that api BY HALF.
There was a discussion about that behavior on an app's github page, I will post it once I find it if anyone is interested.

So one may say "Why don't you switch to invidious? It has its own kodi addon, although it is not listed in the main kodi repo". Because invidious's api is a bigger pita. And I can explain if you want, but we will be way offtopic.

"So one may say "Why don't you switch to invidious? It has its own kodi addon, although it is not listed in the main kodi repo". Because invidious's api is a bigger pita. And I can explain if you want, but we will be way offtopic."

I'm interested. Didn't get that "bigger pita". Neither did google translator Undecided

jim_p · 2021-08-19, 16:03

Pita is an acronym for "pain in the... rear end of your body". I will pm you the rest so as to keep this thread clean of offtopic messages.

karsta62 · 2021-08-20, 09:58

(2021-08-19, 16:03)jim_p Wrote: Pita is an acronym for "pain in the... rear end of your body". I will pm you the rest so as to keep this thread clean of offtopic messages.

Ofcourse. I feel stupid Rofl

G_streamer · 2021-09-19, 15:03

I try this add-on every now and then to see if it's working yet. All I get is the 403 error on everything, including trying to change settings. I'm a computer programmer so I'm not an idiot either. Even if there was some complex way of forcing it to work, it's a stupid add-on and should NOT be part of the official Kodi repository until it works properly for everyone. The Kodi team needs better quality control over what it provides in it's "Official Repository".

AGLyons · 2021-10-03, 02:32

Every since libreelec 10 I am getting prompted to use tubed for trailers. I haven't been able to install it, keep getting an error.

The dependency on kodi.binary.global.main version 1.0.14 could not be satisfied.

Oddly enough not all items (movie or TV show) try to use tubed. Some use YT. I wish I could figure a way to stop tubed from being triggered altogether.

Anyone have any ideas?

jim_p · 2021-10-15, 18:33

Question for the ones that have added their youtube api keys to tubed.
As you may know, the youtube addon is unusable for the 1+ week because google throttles every non-official app that has access to it. How does tubed behave?

2lazy2chill · 2021-10-26, 13:07

Hey guys:-).

I've added my YouTube-API-Key by copy/paste the api_keys.json file to the directory "plugin.video.tubed". After that I can watch YT-Videos within Tubed.

But if I try to sign-in by google and entering the code on google.com/device I get following error from Google:

Quote:Error 403: access_denied
The developer hasn’t given you access to this app. It’s currently being tested and it hasn’t been verified by Google. If you think you should have access, contact the developer ([email protected]).

Any hints for me?