How Kodi has had an impact on Sky TV ?
#16
Isn't the TV License only for BBC programming? I can't find any reference to a requirement for a TV License with ITV anywhere on their site, and the TV Licensing page does mention a ITV in the content of licensing, but only specifies BBC programming.
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(2018-03-16, 15:15)samcook Wrote: Isn't the TV License only for BBC programming? I can't find any reference to a requirement for a TV License with ITV anywhere on their site, and the TV Licensing page does mention a ITV in the content of licensing, but only specifies BBC programming.
 Although only the BBC gets any money from the TV license it's required to watch any live TV in the UK not just to watch the BBC. Crazy huh...
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#18
In NZ Sky have a monopoly on major sport, rugby (we are the world champions), cricket, NRL, etcetc. However even with that monopoly they have just had to halve the cost of their basic packages. This is not down to kodi, more likely netflix and some other streamers catering to watchers of good tv, and only sports addicts needing sky.
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(2018-03-16, 11:51)Mnementh Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 00:25)speedwell68 Wrote:  I knew this and only watch on demand.  I don't consider £147 a year for the iPlayer to be value for money, not when I can get Amazon and Netflix for not much more.  The BBC should have set an on demand only fee at 50% of the full licence.  I have chosen not to use the BBC.
 Couldn't agree more, unfortunately I do watch live sport, that's literally the ONLY thing I watch live, so I unfortunately have to pay both the BBC tax and the Sky tax (the one where you have to pay for all of the rubbish you don't want to get the sport you do want in HD...). 
I only has Sky for the kids channels and the Formula One.  I soon realised that the Kids weren't watching it anymore and were mainly hitting Netflix, Amazon and Youtube.  I could no longer justify the expense, just for the F1 (I now go round my Dad's house to watch it).  It was soon after I dropped Sky that I realised that the amount we watched the BBC was dwindling so I ditched the BBC Tax and just used the iPlayer.  When the iPlayer became £147 a year I ditched it completely.  I wasn't paying that much for University Challenge, Gardeners World and the odd watch of CBBC.  TBH you can get most BBC shows elsewhere once they have dropped off of the iPlayer.  I watch Top Gear on Netflix, or for free on Dave (I can't abide the adverts on Dave).
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(2018-03-16, 20:30)Mnementh Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 15:15)samcook Wrote: Isn't the TV License only for BBC programming? I can't find any reference to a requirement for a TV License with ITV anywhere on their site, and the TV Licensing page does mention a ITV in the content of licensing, but only specifies BBC programming.
 Although only the BBC gets any money from the TV license it's required to watch any live TV in the UK not just to watch the BBC. Crazy huh... 
 It also pays for the transmission network, or at least the publicly owned parts of it.  TBH the TV license's days are numbered.
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I’ve been reading this intently, and it shows interesting points about us in the ‘official’ community. Somehow I don’t think WE will hit the headlines though.

Here they are:

Our library has been purchased (in the U.K., though, it magically appears on your hard drive by waving the dvd at your pc)
A few of us have Netflix and Prime accounts, again we don’t mind paying.
We also watch BBCiPlayer

We do have a gripe with the BBC tax, I think we can agree that that no issue on paying for the BBC - if you are going to watch it! Personally I only watch it only when Dr Who is on.... £147 even for me is too much to pay!

Netflix and Prime are killing the Sky and the virgins NOT Kodi...
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#22
(2018-03-17, 14:02)speedwell68 Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 20:30)Mnementh Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 15:15)samcook Wrote: Isn't the TV License only for BBC programming? I can't find any reference to a requirement for a TV License with ITV anywhere on their site, and the TV Licensing page does mention a ITV in the content of licensing, but only specifies BBC programming.
 Although only the BBC gets any money from the TV license it's required to watch any live TV in the UK not just to watch the BBC. Crazy huh...  
 It also pays for the transmission network, or at least the publicly owned parts of it.  TBH the TV license's days are numbered. 
If I actually watched anything on the BBC I honestly wouldn't mind paying the license fee just to have no adverts, I think everybody in the UK should be grateful for the license fee as it prevented the situation they have in America where you get 3-4 minutes of show followed by 3-4 minutes of adverts and repeat ad infinitum. 

20 minutes of every hour in the US is adverts, that would drive me insane. To be honest that's why I don't watch shows when they're broadcast and either buy the Blu-Ray or watch them on Netflix/Prime.
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#23
(2018-03-17, 13:55)speedwell68 Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 11:51)Mnementh Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 00:25)speedwell68 Wrote:  I knew this and only watch on demand.  I don't consider £147 a year for the iPlayer to be value for money, not when I can get Amazon and Netflix for not much more.  The BBC should have set an on demand only fee at 50% of the full licence.  I have chosen not to use the BBC.
 Couldn't agree more, unfortunately I do watch live sport, that's literally the ONLY thing I watch live, so I unfortunately have to pay both the BBC tax and the Sky tax (the one where you have to pay for all of the rubbish you don't want to get the sport you do want in HD...).  
I only has Sky for the kids channels and the Formula One.  ... I could no longer justify the expense, just for the F1 (I now go round my Dad's house to watch it).  
If I could find a legal way to get F1 in HD in the UK and also all of the American Football I would drop Sky like a hot potato and could then also drop my TV license as I would be in the same boat as you.

Although I do have other sports on in the background whilst doing other things and will occasionally have Soccer Saturday on I can happily do without those, I can't do without my F1 & NFL however.
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#24
I agree in paying for the BBC, I don’t think the way we pay for it now is right for the 21st Century and beyond.... it worked when there was less TV channels, and no Sky/Netflix etc, however, tech has changed, and the licensing model needs to be updated.

I for one agree that we shouldn’t have the US model as I watched a US program complete with ads once (Hulu via vpn). I lasted 1/2 hour!

Now that the license also covers IPlayer, looks like the BBC are going to shift to a different model, one hopes...
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#25
(2018-03-17, 15:00)Mnementh Wrote:
(2018-03-17, 14:02)speedwell68 Wrote:
(2018-03-16, 20:30)Mnementh Wrote:  Although only the BBC gets any money from the TV license it's required to watch any live TV in the UK not just to watch the BBC. Crazy huh...  
 It also pays for the transmission network, or at least the publicly owned parts of it.  TBH the TV license's days are numbered.  
If I actually watched anything on the BBC I honestly wouldn't mind paying the license fee just to have no adverts, I think everybody in the UK should be grateful for the license fee as it prevented the situation they have in America where you get 3-4 minutes of show followed by 3-4 minutes of adverts and repeat ad infinitum. 

20 minutes of every hour in the US is adverts, that would drive me insane. To be honest that's why I don't watch shows when they're broadcast and either buy the Blu-Ray or watch them on Netflix/Prime. 
 I used to agree with you on the license fee, but TBH it is just another tax.  The government should fund it directly, they already fund parts of the radio network and the over 75s fee, via the DWP.  The full fee for the iPlayer is an insult, they don't offer the full service.  I can't watch certain movies and sporting events and I can't get all of the local programming.  There is also no 1080p or 5.1 audio, yet if I use Virgin, Sky, Freesat or Youview there is.  So if I can't get the full service, why I am expected to pay the full price?  You can tell it is a Tax by the way it is enforced.  If you don't pay it you are criminalised, where as it should be a civil matter.  They should make the iPlayer a subscription service.  I now directly compare the BBC to the likes of Amazon and Netflix, this is the world we now live in.
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(2018-03-17, 15:21)speedwell68 Wrote:
(2018-03-17, 15:00)Mnementh Wrote:
(2018-03-17, 14:02)speedwell68 Wrote:  It also pays for the transmission network, or at least the publicly owned parts of it.  TBH the TV license's days are numbered.  
If I actually watched anything on the BBC I honestly wouldn't mind paying the license fee just to have no adverts, I think everybody in the UK should be grateful for the license fee as it prevented the situation they have in America where you get 3-4 minutes of show followed by 3-4 minutes of adverts and repeat ad infinitum. 

20 minutes of every hour in the US is adverts, that would drive me insane. To be honest that's why I don't watch shows when they're broadcast and either buy the Blu-Ray or watch them on Netflix/Prime.  
 They should make the iPlayer a subscription service. 
 Great idea - how does £12.25 a month sound?
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#27
(2018-03-17, 19:38)steelman1991 Wrote:
(2018-03-17, 15:21)speedwell68 Wrote:
(2018-03-17, 15:00)Mnementh Wrote: If I actually watched anything on the BBC I honestly wouldn't mind paying the license fee just to have no adverts, I think everybody in the UK should be grateful for the license fee as it prevented the situation they have in America where you get 3-4 minutes of show followed by 3-4 minutes of adverts and repeat ad infinitum. 

20 minutes of every hour in the US is adverts, that would drive me insane. To be honest that's why I don't watch shows when they're broadcast and either buy the Blu-Ray or watch them on Netflix/Prime.  
 They should make the iPlayer a subscription service.  
 Great idea - how does £12.25 a month sound? 
It sounds like £147 a year.Big Grin  Considering what you actually get about £5 a month would be fair.  In the long run I bet the government scrap it and put a levy on every internet enabled phone line.
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#28
I used to pay for Sky, found it a pretty good service overall but got bored of the same interface and poor quality remote. I also realized I was only really interested in the Live Sport.

Another thing that frustrated me was not being able to access my recordings on different devices. This was probably the deal breaker for me.

I don't use Kodi to stream anything and I pay for Netflix and Amazon Prime subscriptions and have a TV license. that I have no issue with whatsoever. I access these all through my Kodi box including live TV that I can stream all around the house without cables.

I play my own ripped media including music, movies and TV shows that I record from TV.

Overall the reason I use Kodi most is because I can modify it to my liking, and have complete freedom of my own media.
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#30
(2018-03-17, 14:27)tjay260476 Wrote: I’ve been reading this intently, and it shows interesting points about us in the ‘official’ community. Somehow I don’t think WE will hit the headlines though.

Here they are:

Our library has been purchased (in the U.K., though, it magically appears on your hard drive by waving the dvd at your pc)
A few of us have Netflix and Prime accounts, again we don’t mind paying.
We also watch BBCiPlayer

We do have a gripe with the BBC tax, I think we can agree that that no issue on paying for the BBC - if you are going to watch it! Personally I only watch it only when Dr Who is on.... £147 even for me is too much to pay!

Netflix and Prime are killing the Sky and the virgins NOT Kodi...

On another note... have you all noticed the OP has disappeared as this discussion didn’t go the way as was intended? I’m happy to remove this part, if he reappears.
Yeah, good idea. Why don't you remove your that part of your answer as the OP hasn't "disappeared" from the discussion? 👍
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