[ChocOranger]

Open formats hold up longer than code that requires $per unit but in the case of hardware, the extra cost might be an acceptable market decision as long as there is demand.

Dolby Vision content will be produced by professional individuals and studios. Software licence frees are peanuts in comparison to the overall budgets. Studios also know they'll be able to call on support from Dolby. Open standards don't generally have any support.
Per TV it's less than $3.
Per unit for any distribution (eg Bluray) is always going to be paid. 

It's naive to think Dolby Vision will not survive as long as HDR10+.  (You state: Open formats hold up longer than code that requires $per unit)

Dolby knows what it's doing and has been licensing other products for years that content providers are obviously still using.

[gujal]

Kodi on Windows will not do HDR10+ or Dolby Vision, just HDR.

I know that but what about Kodi 21 Omega features ? Can I expect it to do DV and HDR10+ playback/decoding ?
Many thanks in advance

DV and HDR10+ require certification of the display chip and have protected hardware path from decoding from gpu to display. So it will never happen on Windows platform.
It works on Android because it is a ARM CPU + Mali GPU based SOC (such as tegra, amlogic or mediatek) and they get certified, so outside of arm soc based devices and game consoles, do not expect DV/HDR10+ support

When 21 is released possibly XBox One X and Series X may get DV support as the hardware is certified

[release9648]

Hi everyone, I'm new here. For DV, I usually follow this spreadsheet for which devices to buy, which led me to owning a Sony BD player as my FEL player, then the C1 for streaming, then an 8th gen i3 nuc for everything else. I don't know since when, but an option for windows was added, Energy Player + Dolby Vision Extensions from the microsoft store.

Not sure if this has been asked before. Is it possible for Kodi to integrate the use of the windows DV extension for playback? I can see that Kodi is also available in the Microsoft Store.

[hifihedgehog]

Kodi on Windows will not do HDR10+ or Dolby Vision, just HDR.

I know that but what about Kodi 21 Omega features ? Can I expect it to do DV and HDR10+ playback/decoding ?
Many thanks in advance

DV and HDR10+ require certification of the display chip and have protected hardware path from decoding from gpu to display. So it will never happen on Windows platform.

This isn't true which I have confirmed on my LG G4 and AMD Ryzen 8700G HTPC system. Dolby Vision works in games on Windows, such as Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017). I see the Dolby Vision logo pop up on my G4, just as I would see on an Apple TV 4K when it is configured to Dolby Vision, whenever playing with Dolby Vision enabled. Dolby Vision also recently started working in media in MPC-HC thanks to MPC Video Renderer's recent strides. LAV Filters also added Dolby Vision support not too long ago. I am hoping the Kodi team can eventually integrate the necessary bits in so Dolby Vision also works in Kodi!

[PatK]

Wikipedia: HDR10+ The technology is standardized and defined in SMPTE ST 2094-40 is an open standard and is royalty-free; it is supported by a growing list of post-production software and tools. It is considered to have most of the advantages of Dolby Vision over HDR10, as well as being royalty free. The process of dynamic tone mapping is being discussed. HDR10+ and Dolby Vision do not use the same dynamic metadata, this will be a work in progress.

Wikipedia: Dolby Vision format Current displays cannot reproduce the full Dolby Vision brightness and gamut capability. Dolby is a proprietary solution and is licensed. A $2,500 annual license is required to activate the trims allowing content creators to manually adjust the video.[26] OEM and manufacturer of a grading, mastering, editorial, or other professional application or device need to apply for a license.

Libplacebo (part of the VideoLAN project) implemented support for Dolby Vision profile 5's IPTPQc2 color space, MMR and reshaping.
MPC Video Renderer implemented partial support for Dolby Vision.

This smacks of the old Beta vs VHS wars. Given that Kodi can utilize external players, these players are available to those who have capable equipment.

[hifihedgehog]

This smacks of the old Beta vs VHS wars. Given that Kodi can utilize external players, these players are available to those who have capable equipment.

I'll agree to disagree here. This wasn't even a format war but a tempest in a teapot when HDR10+ hit the scene in 2017 and has been largely MIA ever since. Despite the licensing fees, Dolby Vision, beating HDR10+ to the market by three years, is the de facto modern HDR standard for both content distribution and content presentation. Apple, Netflix, Vudu, Microsoft, NVIDIA, and so on on the software and hardware fronts have their full weight and financial firepower behind it.

Per CNET, "it's unlikely HDR10 Plus will ever become the standard dynamic metadata HDR format [and it's] [n]ot widely supported" (link: https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertain...explained/). I can't recall the last UHD Blu-ray I have watched of the vast collection (>100 I believe at this point) that I have amassed that actually uses HDR10+. On the commercial cinema front, I can find on Google virtually 1000s of public theaters with Dolby Cinema certification supporting Dolby Vision on Google, but virtually none in a quick Google search that advertise HDR10+ in any way, shape, or form. Same story with laptops, tablets, smartphones, etc.

Comparing format wars outcomes, HD-DVD and Betamax were much stronger contenders to their victorious rivals than this joke of an HDR standard; HDR10+'s efforts to penetrate the market are laughable at best. Personally, I see no reason to hold out for some HDR10+ comeback or second wind with Dolby Vision plastered literally everywhere. Maybe we will see a fork of Kodi on Windows that recognizes the virtual death of HDR10+ and embraces Dolby Vision, in the same vein as Kodi DSPlayer + MadVR in its heyday. At any rate, I hope Dolby Vision support in Kodi eventually sees the light of day on the Windows front.

[tiben20]

Maybe we will see a fork of Kodi on Windows that recognizes the virtual death of HDR10+ and embraces Dolby Vision, in the same vein as Kodi DSPlayer + MadVR in its heyday. At any rate, I hope Dolby Vision support in Kodi eventually sees the light of day on the Windows front.

Its funny your saying that i just put dsplayer up to date with the master branch madvr is working. I also written a video renderer based on mpcvideorenderer and the renderer is using libplacebo. So far i got working and fixed every video sample i had "hdr10, hdr10+, hlg and dolby" are working.
So basically you have lavfilters, madvr, mpcvideorenderer and libplacebo all in kodi

[scott967]

Also curious if Windows on Arm makes a difference compared to Windows on x86?  Assuming MS is able to get wider acceptance of Arm-based PCs.

scott s.
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[jjd-uk]

The new Copilot AI PC's using Snapdragon have a Dolby Vision decoder built in. Not idea if there's any Windows API that Kodi could utilise to offload DV content to that decoder, in order to do something similar to how DV is implemented on Android.

[hifihedgehog]

Maybe we will see a fork of Kodi on Windows that recognizes the virtual death of HDR10+ and embraces Dolby Vision, in the same vein as Kodi DSPlayer + MadVR in its heyday. At any rate, I hope Dolby Vision support in Kodi eventually sees the light of day on the Windows front.

Its funny your saying that i just put dsplayer up to date with the master branch madvr is working. I also written a video renderer based on mpcvideorenderer and the renderer is using libplacebo. So far i got working and fixed every video sample i had "hdr10, hdr10+, hlg and dolby" are working.
So basically you have lavfilters, madvr, mpcvideorenderer and libplacebo all in kodi

Woah, woah, woah. For now, is this just a private project or are you considering ever releasing it? This is amazing work! With a TV upgrade (LG G4), I recently switched to the latest mainline release of Kodi, version 21 Omega. However, I would love to have the latest release with all the fixings, including mpcvideorenderer's goodness.

EDIT: By golly, you did! Thank you so much for sharing your work!

 

https://github.com/tiben20/xbmc/releases...player_001

Known problems:
-when coming back from a video which was hd the colors are of kodi are strange until you start another video.
-Scaling with madvr as mentionned before still not fix

Tell me more problems so i can work on them

 https://github.com/tiben20/xbmc/releases