[Xplosionist]

Similar to other posts, I have added movies recently to the NFS filesystem that contains movies, but the library is not showing them.  I have seen the titles blink past on the title-bar during scraping, and I can see and play then from the Videos/Files interface.  The names are a similar format to others.

Running Kodi 21.1 on a Shield TV Pro.  I confirmed that I do not have the feature to scan data within files turned on (since it says it breaks scrapers, I never turned it on).  I turned on the Universal Movie scraper for the first time last night to see if it addressed the problem.  It is still enabled, as are the TMDB and TVDB Python scrapers.

I have turned on debugging, restarted Kodi, cleared the library, then updated the library from within the Movies listing.  Sadly, my `kodi.old.log` dated last night notes these movies as not being able to find info (no debugging), but they're not in the new log.  . Let me try again.

Okay.  I started up again, turned on debug logging, exited Kodi, then even rebooted the Shield.  Then started Kodi, which was still displaying the on-screen debugging, it ran its automatic scan at start-up, then I manually updated the database.  Then, exited and restarted Kodi, and uploaded the logs.  Nothing.  Neither the most recent Kodi.log.old or Kodi.log have any reference to the new movies.  (filename approximately  "Bogart.Life.Comes.in.Flashes.2024.1080p.source.type.sound.format-CONTRIB.mkv")

Do I need to turn on some level of component debugging?  Or, do something else to force a fuller scan?

Thanks.

Most recent kodi.log, which I'm not sure is even useful, is at https://paste.kodi.tv/diyoximejo.kodi

[Karellen]

I am not fully understanding your setup. There are some strange folders mixed in with your movies, like...
Video/.3 Days to Kill (2014).backdrop/
Video/.3.days.to.kill.2014.extended.1080p.bluray.x264-sparks.backdrop/
What is with the .backdrop suffix?

Video/.Marvels.Guardians.of.the.Galaxy.S01E01.Road.to.Knowhere.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-iT00NZ.backdrop/
Video/.The.Jim.Gaffigan.Show.S01E01.720p.WEBRip.AAC2.0.x264-PPKORE.backdrop/
Video/.Elementary.S04E01.1080p.WEB-DL.DD5.1.H.264-VietHD.backdrop
episodes in movies?

Video/Detective.Chinatown.subs/
What is with the .subs suffix.

And why do all your folders have a period at the start of the folder name?
Honestly, your folder naming is pretty bad. It is a wonder anything scrapes.
Do you really need all that rubbish in the name?

I couldn't find your movie Bogart.Life.Comes.in.Flashes.2024.1080p.source.type.sound.format-CONTRIB.mkv in the log.
Can you do the following...
1. Change to TheMovieDatabase-Python scraper
2. Navigate to the movie in Videos>Files>Your Source and press i on your keyboard to start a scrape of that movie. Provide the log that captures that.

[Xplosionist]

I didn't name them that.  Or, at least not that I know of.  Looking, all of the .-prefixed directories have `.backdrop` on them.  And, they're all empty directories, with May 2017 dates on them.  by the way, I have 220 files (dir entries technically) in that folder, and only 30 of them are the .-prefixed ones.  There are another dozen or so intentional folders, then 170+ files.

I know at some point years ago I lost context of everything and manually rebuilt it.  These may have appeared then if they're not something some version of Kodi (or a plugin) would've made.  I also see a ".wd_tv" directory on that date, empty, so I'll guess there was something I was doing years ago.  As a test, I looked on my Shield for Kung Fu Panda films, and they don't show up at all.  So I just nuked all of those directories.  :-). And, that `.subs` directory has a `.srt` file in it.  I'm not sure why it ended up in a directory like that.  The movie with the approximately equal filename (difference of spaces vs dots and some ordering of components in the filename) is up above that in the main.

I'll try your next suggestion.  I'm not sure how to interpret "Change to TheMovieDatabase-Python scraper".  I'll disable the others, for lack of any other idea how to "change" which of the enabled ones to use.
Or, I thought I would.  I disabled the Universal Movie Scraper, but neither "Local Information only" nor "The TVDB v4 (Movies)" had Disable or Uninstall as available options in the menu.  They were greyed out and unselectable options.
But, with that, I tried to do the "Scan to Library" multiple times.  It popped up a window that quickly said something about scanning, then gave me a "enter the name of the movie" dialog box, with the filename pre-populated.  I presume that means it failed to scan.

Recent log entries (starting as I reconnected, ignoring the hours of random debug while I was away) are at https://paste.kodi.tv/ziveyahipa.kodi

Looking, it looks like the movie in question tried to scan, but only appears to have tried with The TVDB v4 (Movies) scraper.  This leaves me two questions:
1) More than one scraper can be enabled, but is Kodi only ever going to try to use one of them?
2) How can I disable this scraper, which gives me neither a disable or uninstall option in the addons view?

Thanks.

[Karellen]

I didn't name them that.  Or, at least not that I know of.  Looking, all of the .-prefixed directories have `.backdrop` on them.  And, they're all empty directories, with May 2017 dates on them.  by the way, I have 220 files (dir entries technically) in that folder, and only 30 of them are the .-prefixed ones.  There are another dozen or so intentional folders, then 170+ files.

Maybe spend a bit of time cleaning up your folders?
Properly separating the movies and tv shows that you want to see in your library, and those movies that seem to be random or home movies?
Looking at your log, you are hammering the scraper sites with API calls.
Do a search for findmovie in that log and see all the useless calls your install is making.

I'm not sure how to interpret "Change to TheMovieDatabase-Python scraper"

See here... https://kodi.wiki/view/Changing_Scrapers
But you must know how to do that as you said you changed to Universal, and now are using TVDB.

but neither "Local Information only" nor "The TVDB v4 (Movies)" had Disable or Uninstall as available options in the menu

They can't be disabled or removed. They are either used or not used.
If you attach a scraper to a source (see wiki link above) then it is used, if it is not attached, then it's just some small files sitting there doing nothing.

In that log, I don't see you doing what I asked in my previous post.

[Xplosionist]

Maybe spend a bit of time cleaning up your folders?
Properly separating the movies and tv shows that you want to see in your library, and those movies that seem to be random or home movies?
Looking at your log, you are hammering the scraper sites with API calls.
Do a search for findmovie in that log and see all the useless calls your install is making.

There aren't TV shows, the only sign of those were the old dot-prefixed items. But, you're right, there are "Videos" in this videos directory. I can make a third media volume for "Videos" vs "Movies". I see now the oddities caused by that. It was just a way for me to put them onto the TV at the time.

See here... https://kodi.wiki/view/Changing_Scrapers
But you must know how to do that as you said you changed to Universal, and now are using TVDB.

Thank you. No, what I had done was _enable_ the Universal Movie Scraper. I see now that I didn't understand how to apply those, I just assumed any enabled scraper was used, and the results combined. I'll change the scraper used for these as you commented.

They can't be disabled or removed. They are either used or not used.
If you attach a scraper to a source (see wiki link above) then it is used, if it is not attached, then it's just some small files sitting there doing nothing.

In that log, I don't see you doing what I asked in my previous post.

Right. As noted, I wasn't doing what needed to be done. I did try what you suggested in your post, to the best of my ability, I'm sorry that I didn't understand how to attach scrapers. I'm going to go configure the new mount, with movies only, set it up to use TheMovieDatabase-Python, and let it run. I'll check back in here. If things are still missing, I'll gen new debug logs.

[Karellen]

I'm going to go configure the new mount, with movies only, set it up to use TheMovieDatabase-Python, and let it run. I'll check back in here. If things are still missing, I'll gen new debug logs.

Yep, that sounds good.
Let me know if you still get stuck.

[Xplosionist]

Seems to mostly be okay now.  I was concerned because the side-menu said there were 136 videos, but I realized that is counting "rows", in which movie set folders are 1.  If I turn off movie sets, it shows 196, and I see 202 in my media server exported folder.  So, there might be something still amiss, but minor, and I'm not in the mood to single-check all of those.  :-)

So this brings up a question.  I now have three movie scrapers, but clearly only one can be used at a time.  How is this design supposed to work?  Having them installed just makes them available to be selected.  But, how does one decide which to use?  And, why would you ever want more than one to be available if you can only use one?

Then, the obvious question, of which one is better/best.  That may be subjective.  Is Universal Movie Scraper recommended?  I saw (from forum posts) it wasn't due to problems a couple years ago, but is it recommended now?  Where can I learn the pros and cons of the scrapers that are available?

Thanks for all of your help.

[Karellen]

Having them installed just makes them available to be selected

Correct.
TheMovieDB-Python is the default scraper and is installed with Kodi. The other two - Universal Movie Scraper and TVDB v4 Movies you have installed from the repo at some stage.

But, how does one decide which to use?  

I always recommend using the default scraper for movies.
For TV Shows either TMDB TV Shows or TVDB v4. Your choice comes down to which site has the better info for your tv show.

And, why would you ever want more than one to be available if you can only use one?

All TV Shows and Movies inherit the scraper from the Source setting. But you can override that by setting a scraper directly on a TV Show or movie. That is explained in that wiki page under the section "Changing Scraper Settings"
Users here tell me the content at TVDB is better for Anime, so you can have your source set to use TMDB, but the Anime shows can use TVDB at the same time.

Then, the obvious question, of which one is better/best

When it comes to movies, stick with TheMovieDB.
TVDB has some drawbacks for movies - it does not seem as well maintained as TheMovieDB, and artwork is limited to the TVDB site, whereas the TheMovieDB scraper uses artwork from both TheMovieDB and fanart.tv, so a wide range of artwork available.
For TV Shows - whichever has the better information for your shows - either TheMovieDB, TVDB or TV Maze. Personally, I use TheMovieDB. But TVDB still has the smaller artwork selection and TV Maze even smaller still.

If I turn off movie sets, it shows 196, and I see 202 in my media server exported folder.

6 movies missing? That is not too bad. Probably just a naming glitch.
Run the Update Library again. Once it finishes, check the Event Log in Settings... https://kodi.wiki/view/Event_Log
It should show you what was missed.